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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Not against parse but if they add it now it will be bad.

    I say bad because of the players' skill level. The dev team commented on this as well. The current average player skill level is very low.
    They were hoping that with SB and changes done to the battle system, that the gap between good and bad players will be reduced.

    Judging from PF/DF, the amount of good players you run into is .. once every few weeks?

    I know that having parse will fix this issue in the long run. But it will cause a lot of harassment and kicks because people can be vocal about it. Less skilled players will try to avoid DF/PF and this is not good for queue time or self-improvement.

    If they want to improve the player base skill, they should look at the content they are providing. Brain-dead content is not going to help anyone learn and get better.

    Another thing is, people do not know that they are bad. There is nothing in this game that will show them that they are playing poorly unless they try SSS dummy and realize that they can't clear it. People can argue that adding a parse will help. Well, It will be more of a shock when a dps sees that he is competing with a tank.. and it is shown publicly to everyone. No one wants to look bad.
    It is a different feeling when you see someone doing 200-400 more dps than you V.S. 1k difference. A small difference is more encouraging.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 12-03-2017 at 10:42 PM.
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    Evan Lionheart
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post

    But it will cause a lot of harassment and kicks because people can be vocal about it. Less skilled players will try to avoid DF/PF and this is not good for queue time or self-improvement.

    they try SSS dummy and realize that they can't clear it.
    Implementing a parser in SSS and Savage Raids would be a good start. They could first check/improve DPS at SSS and then join Savage. We don't need parser in Expert dungeon/etc.

    Maybe later for EX primals, but Savage is a must.

    It will also help console players, because they can't use any 3rd party software.
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    If they want to improve the player base skill, they should look at the content they are providing. Brain-dead content is not going to help anyone learn and get better.

    Another thing is, people do not know that they are bad. There is nothing in this game that will show them that they are playing poorly unless they try SSS dummy and realize that they can't clear it.
    Good points! Content should have a gradual difficulty increase that would help people improve while they advance in the game. I also think that requiring beating a SSS dummy to be able to access content might be a good first step in making people aware of their current skill level in a kind and non-public way.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Good points! Content should have a gradual difficulty increase that would help people improve while they advance in the game. I also think that requiring beating a SSS dummy to be able to access content might be a good first step in making people aware of their current skill level in a kind and non-public way.
    I agree with this, but what do healers and tanks do? There's no SSS for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I agree with this, but what do healers and tanks do? There's no SSS for them.
    There's no SSS doll for healing or tanking (enmity management and damage mitigation), but there is DPS SSS for healers and tanks, and since DPS is vital part of playing both roles in raiding, I think it's good enough.
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    Last edited by Taika; 12-05-2017 at 03:20 AM.