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    Aeducan's Avatar
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    Kaho Saionji
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    I agree with OP and Tridus that healers are pretty much balanced right now, but here are few changes that I hope to see in 4.2:

    WHM: More ways to generate lilies. I think someone mentioned potential ways of doing so in other threads and I really like that idea. I find myself casting cure 2 pretty often, even when healing is not necessary, just to generate lilies. Although not a game breaker, this can definitely get some QoL changes. Also, do something about fluid aura... make it deals damage, dot, anything! Other than that, I think WHM is in a great spot as powerhouse healer right now.

    SCH: Selene... bless her heart. It has come to a point where people start asking me to switch to Eos even though I assured them that I can keep them alive with Selene. I still use her quite regularly whenever I think extra healing is not necessary, so I honestly believe Selene still has her place. Perhaps buff Fey Wind to 5% instead of 3%? Change Silent Dusk into physical equivalent of Fey Covenant? Hell, even changing its effect from silence (1s) to stun (3s) will help her tremendously. I love SCH and I think it's in a great spot atm; the problem is more about the imbalance between the two faeries imo.

    AST: Hmm... other than increasing Spear duration from 20s to 30s like the others, I can't really think of anything else. Perhaps buff Lord of Crowns potency cause it's rather underwhelming compared to its Lady counterparts, but eh... This is more about wishful thinking on my part, but I wish they would reduce Aspected Helios cast time to be roughly the same with succor. I gotta admit, that buffed succor makes me so jelly of SCH mains. Haha...

    Personally, I'd rather they spend more time fixing DRK, BLM, SAM, and the overall DPS balance right now. I think we can sit out for now, especially since we're pretty much in a good spot atm.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeducan View Post
    WHM: More ways to generate lilies. I think someone mentioned potential ways of doing so in other threads and I really like that idea. I find myself casting cure 2 pretty often, even when healing is not necessary, just to generate lilies. Although not a game breaker, this can definitely get some QoL changes. Also, do something about fluid aura... make it deals damage, dot, anything! Other than that, I think WHM is in a great spot as powerhouse healer right now.
    There was some talk about that on the Stone end, especially if they give a way to use them on DPS as well. Would certainly make things more dynamic.
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    Kira Thrinaria
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    I don't want much changes outside of QoL and maybe a slight nerf to scholar, because at the moment it is the go to healer. High personal dmg, underestimated raid utility and very good mitigation options.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeducan View Post
    SCH: Selene... bless her heart. It has come to a point where people start asking me to switch to Eos even though I assured them that I can keep them alive with Selene.
    Those people probably wanted eos, because eos is good at healing and can give both healers more time to dps. As for selene... At this point, it is probably best to delete selene in her current state and add her to Dissipation with a few new skills to make her more useful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caduagm View Post
    Something to weave ogcds on ast.
    The clipping is awful atm and makes ppl sick.
    Please this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Taken in isolation, AST's buffs are superior, however Chain can be guaranteed to align which Trick and such which allows it to punch far above it's weight.
    I agree with you and imo balance isn't as strong as people think it is. There are some people doing the math and the last time i read something about it, was that in theory you need about 30-40% balance uptime to make ast/sch a stronger comp in terms of raiddps than whm/sch, because the latter push out an insane amount of personal dmg. Of course balance buffs everyones dmg and if the group cares more about their own dmg than the killtime of an encounter, than ast/sch is the go to comp. It is just interesting imo to see that ast/sch hasn't the 100% "save spot" in terms of raid dps as most people make it out to be.
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    Elliot Cloverfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeducan View Post
    /snip
    These are all things I agree with, but here are other things I could see helping to help with QoL:

    WHM: Lilies are also generated on crit Regen tics, and crit Aero II/III tics. Yeah, this could have bad WHMs try to spread the Regens to everyone in the party, but people are already spreading Cure Is and IIs to everyone in the party which is arguably worse. With this, there is some encouragement to actually DPS on WHM instead of its current system actively encouraging you to ignore it. In addition, if Plenary was a self-stacking buff with no cooldown instead of a buff that stacks on each, individual member, the skill could make for a very effective AoE heal bomb when you need it.

    SCH: I'm still calling for Excog to have interaction with Deployment Tactic. If they do that, then, I don't think it should cost Aetherflow. Otherwise, I think it would be neat if Excog got a special effect if you place it then let it sit for a few seconds, you generate extra Fairy gauge points. In addition, ye gods, does Dissipation really need to be fixed since it has even further negative compatibility with our kit. Fey points can't be built if there is no fairy, and Dissipation locks you out of it. In addition, I'd like if the Adlo also got Succor's 150% shield of heal effect while still keeping the crit effect (and also giving Succor the crit effect) so that Emergency Tactics on Adlo isn't bleh. (I'd like a future trait where Fairy crit Embraces reduce Emergency Tactics recast time by a few seconds, but one thing at a time)

    AST: I think Lightspeed could use some buffs. I think if they remove the damage decrease, it would see a lot more use since it does reduce the MP cost of spells (because AST can have some difficulties with MP management) and AST has massive GCD clipping issues. This could fix a lot of that. In addition, change the Hyper Lightspeed trait to be tied to Draw instead of Essential Dignity.
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    Corpse Flower
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    stuff
    Nickpick, but these aren't QoL buffs. These are just straight up buffs.
    Excog is already good, taking away the aether cost and making it aoe makes it just free-indom-but-better instead of just lustrate-plus. Dissipation has had indirect buffs and it does interact with our kit already. It takes less mana to resummon your faerie and only takes 3 seconds. You get 3 aetherflow which interacts with our quickened aetherflow. Dissipation is fine, there's even moments when you can use it at no opportunity cost even in savage fights as long as you look for them. Buffing adlo or succor would be out of left field, there's nothing wrong with them and succor just got a buff.
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