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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100

    Try to predict Nerf/Buff/QoL of 4.2 Healer Edition

    Get ready boys/girls/neutral genders it the time of the year to speculate before live letter goes online to predict buff/Nerf/QoL for healers on 4.2!

    Here my prediction...I have nothing i think healers are balance class atm BUT DOESNT MEAN IT BALANCE CANNOT HAVE FUN SO YOLO!
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Honestly pretty hard right now because things are largely in good shape.

    Maybe they'll get around to making Secret of the Lily II something that people realize exists.
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Besides changing secret of the lily 2 I don't think Healers will be touched much else. Maybe a crossrole system update but I think that will be 5.0 most likely.

    Now are classes fun that is subjective.

    I do hope they find a better use for Lillies and P1 both are pretty boring. Maybe update Dissipation and Selene.
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    Mizu Kun
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Make Break useful.
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    Hyomin Park
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    They could do a QoL change to WHM where Divine Benison doesn't eat all your lilies, instead just using one.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Esuna not being an optional skill would've been cool so we stop running into those pug situations where healers don't bring it when they should. Definitely been on my mind when I do titan hard in a roulette, get the inevitable gaol, then be left with a 60 second damage down and no esuna. Drives me bonkers when I queue for things on anything outside of healer.

    Other than that I got nothing, since tired and it's late.
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    Esuna not being an optional skill would've been cool so we stop running into those pug situations where healers don't bring it when they should. Definitely been on my mind when I do titan hard in a roulette, get the inevitable gaol, then be left with a 60 second damage down and no esuna. Drives me bonkers when I queue for things on anything outside of healer.

    Other than that I got nothing, since tired and it's late.
    I am 99% sure that is less not having Esuna and more just not bothering.
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    Kaho Saionji
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I agree with OP and Tridus that healers are pretty much balanced right now, but here are few changes that I hope to see in 4.2:

    WHM: More ways to generate lilies. I think someone mentioned potential ways of doing so in other threads and I really like that idea. I find myself casting cure 2 pretty often, even when healing is not necessary, just to generate lilies. Although not a game breaker, this can definitely get some QoL changes. Also, do something about fluid aura... make it deals damage, dot, anything! Other than that, I think WHM is in a great spot as powerhouse healer right now.

    SCH: Selene... bless her heart. It has come to a point where people start asking me to switch to Eos even though I assured them that I can keep them alive with Selene. I still use her quite regularly whenever I think extra healing is not necessary, so I honestly believe Selene still has her place. Perhaps buff Fey Wind to 5% instead of 3%? Change Silent Dusk into physical equivalent of Fey Covenant? Hell, even changing its effect from silence (1s) to stun (3s) will help her tremendously. I love SCH and I think it's in a great spot atm; the problem is more about the imbalance between the two faeries imo.

    AST: Hmm... other than increasing Spear duration from 20s to 30s like the others, I can't really think of anything else. Perhaps buff Lord of Crowns potency cause it's rather underwhelming compared to its Lady counterparts, but eh... This is more about wishful thinking on my part, but I wish they would reduce Aspected Helios cast time to be roughly the same with succor. I gotta admit, that buffed succor makes me so jelly of SCH mains. Haha...

    Personally, I'd rather they spend more time fixing DRK, BLM, SAM, and the overall DPS balance right now. I think we can sit out for now, especially since we're pretty much in a good spot atm.
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    AST might get buffed. Maybe. Even if it doesn't make sense to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr18 View Post
    Make Break useful.
    Even if Heavy becomes ever needed on raids again (last time seen on Midas), you'll just have Ranged DPS to Leg Graze. Stronger heavy and OGCD.
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    Zera Vyre
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I would love to see a "presets" system added in for classes, particularly for ACN/AST but also for MCH etc, so that you can spawn in with a preset Royal Road and Spread, have Aetherflow stacks already when you respawn, have MCH ammo and 5 Chakra stacks, etc. (Note: this is only for when you change to the job or wipe/respawn, NOT for when you raise with weakness or LB3)

    Also, AST probably needs a tiny damage boost and maybe even WHM to catch back up with SCH.


    Speaking of SCH please for the love of god finally fix Selene so that Silent Dusk does something actually useful and so that Fey Wind is 5%/on par with Expanded Arrow.

    Another thing I would like to see is for SCH damage to make actual sense; it's strong obviously but we're spamming a DoT for AoE (which hurts my very soul), and can't even Ruin II to move because said DoT is stronger for weaving, not to mention the duration of Miasma I being super wonky for single target rotation compared to the other (meaning SMN's 30 and AST's 30, I suppose WHM also has some "strange" DoT timers). Consider giving SCH access to Miasma/Bio III and nerfing the potency of Broil II accordingly, also please reduce the initial potency of Miasma II and add that potency back in the DoT (for the same current total potency), and add a REAL AoE filler (I'd recommend Splash, working just like Blizzard II).
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    Last edited by Llugen; 12-03-2017 at 05:28 AM.

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