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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    Why would that be easier? At worst they'd need to model everything for the opposite gender, which in many cases (e.g., all of the original scions except Minfilia) is a complete non-issue because they were using standard 1.0 non-gender-locked gear anyway. And if that is actually a lot of work, then continuing to make exclusive models now just increases the barrier to solving that problem later.
    Releasing everything currently out as gender unlocked, which might include designing new outfits outright
    Or
    Releasing several few gender locked items for guys to pacify the masses until a more solid solution is established
    Which is easier?

    Obviously the ideal is that no outfit will be gender locked moving on, or at the very least, no outfit will be on its lonesome. You don't want guys wearing Lyse's outfit? Fine, give us a matching set alongside it. Doesn't even have to be a different NPC's, could just be a variation that's different enough to not really be that NPC's outfit, sort of like how they'd have to come up with something for Edda as the closest would be Avere and the only time we saw him with a body, he was wearing regular tank gear.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Obviously the ideal is that no outfit will be gender locked moving on, or at the very least, no outfit will be on its lonesome. You don't want guys wearing Lyse's outfit? Fine, give us a matching set alongside it. Doesn't even have to be a different NPC's, could just be a variation that's different enough to not really be that NPC's outfit, sort of like how they'd have to come up with something for Edda as the closest would be Avere and the only time we saw him with a body, he was wearing regular tank gear.
    We don't need to have all gears exist in male/female pairs if the goal is to have no gender-locked gear. One of the main benefits of unlocking everything will be to get away from these arbitrary restrictions, so they can just make gear that's cool and whoever wants it can use it.

    Or more directly, I'm not saying Edda's gear should remain locked, so why would you want to introduce an equivalent with the explicit goal of having it be locked?
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  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    At worst they'd need to model everything for the opposite gender, which in many cases (e.g., all of the original scions except Minfilia) is a complete non-issue because they were using standard 1.0 non-gender-locked gear anyway. And if that is actually a lot of work, then continuing to make exclusive models now just increases the barrier to solving that problem later.
    Absolutely true, and I agree with your principles; just not the optimism that continuing to do what we've been doing for years is ever going to change anything any more. If moving a couple of bunny ears can't be squeezed in despite releasing two entire expansions and yet another female-only bunny suit in the interim, I dread to think how long it would take them to actually sort out this completely avoidable problem when they still seem to be stuck on the idea that we're all requesting female-only gear somehow as SenorPatty said:

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I ask this because we're getting the impression that the top factor here seems be SE getting the impression that we want more fem glams when the population's has actually been requesting unisex and/or more male glam to equate the fem glam numbers.
    Even the relatively gentle Japanese forums now have the issue where every post about a new female-only glamour ends up derailed by people asking what on earth they're doing about the guys. We all know that, as you say, making most of this stuff unisex wouldn't be a terrifically difficult operation. I would be happy to wake up to the news that everything had been unlocked and they were boosting their equal opportunity glamour game permanently going forwards (which is why I think unlocking all gloves/hats/boots would be an excellent start, since everyone gets something new with minimal effort and I love long boots). But literally thousands of posts begging for this end up with the conclusion being that we actually all just want more locked stuff, it feels fruitless. I complained bitterly about Minfilia's hair at the time, along with everyone else. The only result I saw? Fixing it... for Aymeric. Thanks, S-E. I want you guys to get Hien's costume too (heck, have the stubble too) but when we keep getting told that we're too much effort to bother with, simply flicking a switch to make it a problem for the other half of the userbase too feels as though it's the only way left to get results.

    I do hope they never release another race for this game until they sort their processes out, both for design (I'm cool with androgynous-looking clothes, some guys and girls want more classically masculine looks to be available) and for implementation. Announcing another race when they're too stretched to cater for half of the existing ones would be a disaster.

    It annoys me more each time I log into the game, because releasing multiple updates which force the players to see banners with female-only goodies right on the launcher really doesn't make it easy to forget the longstanding issue exists.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    So why not make the female exclusive gear that is not on the Mog Station unisex, then? They're not giving SE any money (as far as I know) and I know there will be males wearing the Thavnairian Bustier.
    14 pages and as i see only one person had the idea to try and get content back in the game and out of the cash shop...

    A post i made in another thread discussing the issue of cash shop items being undyeable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Now would be the time to begin requesting a dye-able version and hair option obtainable in game. We all know it's on the way, why not garner support to have it not be in the cash shop? In the end at least an attempt will be made.

    SE, this outfit and hair style is requested to be placed in game as a quest reward and not a purchase in the mog station. The attire pictured below is not only iconic to the main story quest but also would make a great reward for palyers that have been invested in the Ala Mhigo storyline. As a personal touch the attire should be made in to fit into the five corresponding equipment slots (from top to bottom) Earrings, dress, arm guards, pants, and boots, to include the option to dye all items individually from one another. Expected with the outfit would be Lyse's hair option for all races.

    !6 pages and no visual examples given, even after getting a response from a community manager...

    We know a collaboration is on the way, we know FFXV is popular, why not ask for this to be made part of that as an in-game event reward?
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    Last edited by Alacran; 12-01-2017 at 12:58 AM.

  5. #155
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    I know this game probably won't ever reach Tera tier in basically only supporting people who play female characters, but I have a feeling SE wants a (more tasteful) piece of that pie. ToR is the only recent MMO I can think of where it didn't feel like male characters got the short end of the stick.
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    We need more clothes for men that make male Roegadyn look even more amazing. More tight pants and shirts plz.
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  7. #157
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    Hopefully the FFXV crossover event will help balance the scale
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  8. #158
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    I'd like more open-fronted tops (Lyse's without the breast covering fabric would have been perfect but since they screwed it up already I'll just ask for an in-game non-NPC dyeable version). And a waistcoat that doesn't have mandatory brown areas like the GS one would be very much appreciated (the one they made unisex and reskinned for Halloween; the Halloween one dyes much better for people with non-standard skin tones but has a cape, the GS one dyes less appealingly but has a less niche design).

    And actual shorts that aren't either super long or briefs. Please; there are so many of these but they're all female-only and I look weird in long shorts.
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  9. #159
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    The next Live Letter is right around the corner, scheduled for December 15th. Here's hoping we get an update on the FFXV crossover event, eh? It's been roughly a year since the game itself launched after all.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The next Live Letter is right around the corner, scheduled for December 15th. Here's hoping we get an update on the FFXV crossover event, eh? It's been roughly a year since the game itself launched after all.
    At this point I'd assume they'd use it to push an expansion or DLC or something
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