Can we please get more cool looking outfits for male characters?

[Talraen]

...or writing female characters as damsels in distress despite being war heroes, or fridging, etc, etc.

I'm genuinely curious what you're referring to here.

Lock everything so it's fair, or unlock everything for that same fairness. Otherwise it's the exact double standard at the core of this issue.

I think it's very obvious which of those we should be arguing for.

[BillyKaplan]

I'm genuinely curious what you're referring to here.

Moen was killed for Urianger to have a personality. Yda/Lyse is about the most stubborn, rash, hotheaded thing in existence... until she needs Thancred to drag her away instead of, you know, rushing towards Papalymo alongside the WoL (the option I picked) and have Papalymo knock the both of us back. Two examples that didn't sit right with me, off the top of my head.

I think it's very obvious which of those we should be arguing for.

Agreed. But I'd settle for some nice male-exclusive items first because that'll be easier for them than going back and unlocking everything.

[Talraen]

Moen was killed for Urianger to have a personality. Yda/Lyse is about the most stubborn, rash, hotheaded thing in existence... until she needs Thancred to drag her away instead of, you know, rushing towards Papalymo alongside the WoL (the option I picked) and have Papalymo knock the both of us back. Two examples that didn't sit right with me, off the top of my head.

Oh I thought you were referring to something with the Warrior of Light specifically. But yeah those are fair examples.

Agreed. But I'd settle for some nice male-exclusive items first because that'll be easier for them than going back and unlocking everything.

Why would that be easier? At worst they'd need to model everything for the opposite gender, which in many cases (e.g., all of the original scions except Minfilia) is a complete non-issue because they were using standard 1.0 non-gender-locked gear anyway. And if that is actually a lot of work, then continuing to make exclusive models now just increases the barrier to solving that problem later.

[BillyKaplan]

Why would that be easier? At worst they'd need to model everything for the opposite gender, which in many cases (e.g., all of the original scions except Minfilia) is a complete non-issue because they were using standard 1.0 non-gender-locked gear anyway. And if that is actually a lot of work, then continuing to make exclusive models now just increases the barrier to solving that problem later.

Releasing everything currently out as gender unlocked, which might include designing new outfits outright
Or
Releasing several few gender locked items for guys to pacify the masses until a more solid solution is established
Which is easier?

Obviously the ideal is that no outfit will be gender locked moving on, or at the very least, no outfit will be on its lonesome. You don't want guys wearing Lyse's outfit? Fine, give us a matching set alongside it. Doesn't even have to be a different NPC's, could just be a variation that's different enough to not really be that NPC's outfit, sort of like how they'd have to come up with something for Edda as the closest would be Avere and the only time we saw him with a body, he was wearing regular tank gear.

[Talraen]

Obviously the ideal is that no outfit will be gender locked moving on, or at the very least, no outfit will be on its lonesome. You don't want guys wearing Lyse's outfit? Fine, give us a matching set alongside it. Doesn't even have to be a different NPC's, could just be a variation that's different enough to not really be that NPC's outfit, sort of like how they'd have to come up with something for Edda as the closest would be Avere and the only time we saw him with a body, he was wearing regular tank gear.

We don't need to have all gears exist in male/female pairs if the goal is to have no gender-locked gear. One of the main benefits of unlocking everything will be to get away from these arbitrary restrictions, so they can just make gear that's cool and whoever wants it can use it.

Or more directly, I'm not saying Edda's gear should remain locked, so why would you want to introduce an equivalent with the explicit goal of having it be locked?

[Serilda]

At worst they'd need to model everything for the opposite gender, which in many cases (e.g., all of the original scions except Minfilia) is a complete non-issue because they were using standard 1.0 non-gender-locked gear anyway. And if that is actually a lot of work, then continuing to make exclusive models now just increases the barrier to solving that problem later.

Absolutely true, and I agree with your principles; just not the optimism that continuing to do what we've been doing for years is ever going to change anything any more. If moving a couple of bunny ears can't be squeezed in despite releasing two entire expansions and yet another female-only bunny suit in the interim, I dread to think how long it would take them to actually sort out this completely avoidable problem when they still seem to be stuck on the idea that we're all requesting female-only gear somehow as SenorPatty said:

I ask this because we're getting the impression that the top factor here seems be SE getting the impression that we want more fem glams when the population's has actually been requesting unisex and/or more male glam to equate the fem glam numbers.

Even the relatively gentle Japanese forums now have the issue where every post about a new female-only glamour ends up derailed by people asking what on earth they're doing about the guys. We all know that, as you say, making most of this stuff unisex wouldn't be a terrifically difficult operation. I would be happy to wake up to the news that everything had been unlocked and they were boosting their equal opportunity glamour game permanently going forwards (which is why I think unlocking all gloves/hats/boots would be an excellent start, since everyone gets something new with minimal effort and I love long boots). But literally thousands of posts begging for this end up with the conclusion being that we actually all just want more locked stuff, it feels fruitless. I complained bitterly about Minfilia's hair at the time, along with everyone else. The only result I saw? Fixing it... for Aymeric. Thanks, S-E. I want you guys to get Hien's costume too (heck, have the stubble too) but when we keep getting told that we're too much effort to bother with, simply flicking a switch to make it a problem for the other half of the userbase too feels as though it's the only way left to get results.

I do hope they never release another race for this game until they sort their processes out, both for design (I'm cool with androgynous-looking clothes, some guys and girls want more classically masculine looks to be available) and for implementation. Announcing another race when they're too stretched to cater for half of the existing ones would be a disaster.

It annoys me more each time I log into the game, because releasing multiple updates which force the players to see banners with female-only goodies right on the launcher really doesn't make it easy to forget the longstanding issue exists.