With all this DRK feedback, can we get Scourge back please?

[SummerScorcher]

Salted Earth isn't a dot you need to manage, it's an action you use whenever it's up like C&S. You can forget to press the button but it's the same thing as forgetting to use Spit, dot management would be reapplying the dot in such a way you make the most of it (have as much uptime as possible, snapshot a buff with it, etc). But yeah, I personally liked Scourge, especially knowing how powerul it was was cool. I agree with Crater that if we'd get an oGCD back I'd much rather have it be Reprisal or the like instead.

[Kabooa]

The only part of Scourge I want back is the animation. As far as weaponskills go, one-shot bleeds are pretty dull and I don't miss the majority of them except for when they fit the filler inside timers, which Dark Knight doesn't really have.

[Ekimmak]

Try using a macro to auto-target Salted Earth. It makes weaving it far easier.

[Aana]

Try using a macro to auto-target Salted Earth. It makes weaving it far easier.

I need to do some testing on that. Macros are always slower than just using the ability (they don't 'cue' and therefore have to wait for the previous action to end, add in reaction time, then add ping instead of just cueing up skipping the human+ping parts). But ground AOEs are time consuming to put down especially for us controller users. Not sure which is the lesser of 2 evils there. Either way it sucks.

[Ekimmak]

I need to do some testing on that. Macros are always slower than just using the ability (they don't 'cue' and therefore have to wait for the previous action to end, add in reaction time, then add ping instead of just cueing up skipping the human+ping parts). But ground AOEs are time consuming to put down especially for us controller users. Not sure which is the lesser of 2 evils there. Either way it sucks.

I will admit that a macro won't "queue", but I have minor issues with getting targeted aoes to behave sometimes. Of course, when I begin testing to remember what that exact thing was, it works perfectly, so I can't remember why I started using them.

[Valdegarde]

I've used a macro for it and haven't, but I prefer not even with fiddly mouse/controller shenanigans that always seem to happen, simply because it's very beneficial to clip the edge of a target for positioning while pulling or grouping things together, or even pre-placing to catch multiple stationary targets. There's also Dark Knight's immense oGCD weaving reliance, which Plunge puts a damper on, and it may be restrictive to have two skills one has to plan extra space between GCDs for.

Of course, one can have both on their hotbar, space permitting.

[WayofTime]

I will admit that a macro won't "queue", but I have minor issues with getting targeted aoes to behave sometimes. Of course, when I begin testing to remember what that exact thing was, it works perfectly, so I can't remember why I started using them.

Thing is, ground AoEs don't queue either (the ground reticle doesn't appear right away until the GCD is finished casting, most noticable with SCH/SMN's AoE), so unless you need to pre-place it I think the macro is superior.

[Aana]

Thing is, ground AoEs don't queue either (the ground reticle doesn't appear right away until the GCD is finished casting, most noticable with SCH/SMN's AoE), so unless you need to pre-place it I think the macro is superior.

Ill have to give the macro a go. I tend to avoid macros unless absolutely necessary so I never even tried it for ground aoes. Here goes nuthin.

[SummerScorcher]

I've had a macro for Salted Earth for the longest time, but a month or so back I tried using it vanilla and haven't used the macro since (I use mouse though, so unfamiliar with how much of a pain it is to put down ground aoes with a controller.)

With the macro on I found myself spamming the button and it clipping my GCD, sometimes not even registering that I used it. On top of that there are scenarios where there are 2 monsters with big hitboxes that, were you to use it on one it won't hit the other, same thing goes for giant pulls, I'd tab through all of the mobs for a straight 2 seconds until I found one that's perfectly in the middle of all the chaos. Or you want to put SE down before you reach the mobs, etc etc. to name a couple of issues that come with it.

[Eyvhokan]

Macro for Salted Earth generally works in the 'early middle' to 'middle' of a GCD, because it needs to wait for the attack animation of the GCD to finish. Around the middle, it shouldn't clip the next GCD unless you have too much SkS.