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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    This is the point, as I have said I do not care how often it happens, my position if it has the potential to either prevent or mitigate harassment by 1% it is worth the expense.
    So if we remove cars, no matter how inconvenient, it will reduce automobile related accidents. I am assuming you stand for this as well. We cannot have a single car accident. Me must shelter the people from this risk. I am assuming you do not own a car so you don't risk killing anyone and walk everywhere correct?

    We should get rid of the internet because people get bullied sometimes. Why are you using the internet if its something that breeds bullies?

    Where do you draw the line? I get what you're saying, but your methods are so extreme and short-sighted you're doing more harm than good shutting yourself down and not being open to a change of opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    As I said this would not end harassment, but in the case of my FC mates that have terrible logs due but as FC we are hyper causal and have no qualms carrying a person through content or if they run content with other groups that understand the difficulties they have, and if they need help simply ask within the FC or friends of the FC. The FC members in question sometimes want to do content and since we as a whole we are not good enough to carry three people through content, and other groups are busy we have to rotate them around.

    So when they are not up in the rotation sometimes they try outside means, which results in some colorful responses. Now here hard part, I know some of the people that have made these rude comments to our FC mates in the past did not make said comments with malicious intent, and I do not think of them as bad people. The logs and players in question would make anyone go WTF. Granted now it does not happen since we found out we could hide logs. Just the way I see it if it happens to FC members that have difficulties like ours, there might be others that have gone through similar situations, that simply could have been avoided if they did not have any logs. My position is based on emotion, and yeah it is naive, but as I have said before even if it only prevents 1 report a year for me personally that is worth the time and expense.
    I'm not 100% sure I follow this. You're saying you have players in your FC who are not skilled. You are running them through content as an FC (nothing wrong with this). However sometimes you are short people to help so you try pugging the remainders. You do not disclose that you are carrying x people who have no business being in said content and the pugs you recruited are questioning why these people are here when they continually fail or get carried.

    Am I understanding this correctly? If so - you see no issue with this? Specific examples would go a long way here to giving me context to your post. What content, how many players, what skill level, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Though leaving out the potential harassment, let me ask you this how is it reasonable to expect players that buy FFXIV and wish to not be part of third party feature especially one not provided nor supported by SE to go to a third party site, register and link accounts, claim characters just to keep their logs hidden? Let us leave the any issue of harassment out of this, how is that reasonable expectation?
    How reasonable is it that I search every single profile of every person in the world if they accidentally captured me in a photo? Not very reasonable.

    How is it reasonable for me to have a stake in an small town in Australia's gov't matters when I live in a NJ suburb? Not very reasonable.

    This all goes back to my statement about subsets. If you don't ever do anything but roulette, or triple triad, who the hell cares what your logs say?

    Do you think I care what an ex who moved to singapore says about me in another language to some dude she's banging?

    Not in the least.

    That's my point though. You asked a silly question. It's not reasonable if it doesn't affect them.
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    Last edited by KaldeaSahaline; 11-28-2017 at 06:11 AM.