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  1. #1
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    LunaTsukihime's Avatar
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    Luna Tsukihime
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 80

    When will we get the PVP system for PVE ?

    Ever since they introduced the combos and streamlined structure I've been wondering when they will implement this for the normal PVE gameplay.

    It will not only reduce skill bloat by a lot again it will make the gameplay smoother as well.

    Of course there would need to be slight changes made to it.

    But classes right now in PVP feel way better, like Dragoon feels more like a proper FF Dragoon with the PVP changes compared to PVE counterpart. (Try it out)

    So yeah, will we ever see it?
    I hope so, it would improve the game a lot.

    Edit: since to many people seem to get/want to get the wrong idea, I'm only talking about having the improvement not cut out all skills, just having the combos consolidated and skills put together in autoadvancing skillslots.
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    Last edited by LunaTsukihime; 11-28-2017 at 05:31 AM.

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    dotsforlife's Avatar
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    Dippin' Dots
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Please don't encourage such atrocities... This game is already dumbed down as it is. They don't need to push the only good side of the game left into PvP's current mediocrity. A handful of skills could use a rework for sure, but that's it.
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    "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong." - Mordin Solus

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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Why don't we let the game play itself while we're at it, since we just want one button for 3 abilities.
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind it. If it means I don't have to switch through my skillsets (I'm on PS4) that would definitly make it less stressful for me.
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    Luna Tsukihime
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    Sigh, looks like I have to agree to disagree with the two lala posters...

    But seriously, the game suffers right now from skill bloat, even after the Stormblood changes.

    Combining at least the combos into an auto-advancing slot would help alleviate the space problem.

    It's not about copy pasting the whole thing into pve but it's improvements.
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    People have this idea that doing 1 2 3 on their keyboard makes them skilled and adds challenge to the gameplay. So when they see an idea to have only to tap 3 times one button instead of 3, for some reason its akin to dumbing the game down.

    Like, do you guys hear yourselves sometimes? Or do you have such a hard time push/clicking your buttons that you've deluded yourselves into thinking it really sets you apart from the pvp system?

    Edit: forgot to add make it optional. We don't want feathers to ve ruffled anymore than they are now by making it mainstream.
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    Last edited by SenorPatty; 11-28-2017 at 02:16 AM.

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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Some reduction of skills so it all fits on 2 hotbars at most would be nice.

    But I don't think it needs to be reduced like PVP to the point that it all fits on one bar.
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I really don't see the need for it, and I'm on PS4. I have my Cross Hotbar set up perfectly to rotate through the skills using no more than 32 slots, and even then it's mostly less than 32 buttons to us(and I don't cycle through the bars, holding L2+R2 will allow me to use the left side of set 3, without switching to it permanently; and same with R2+L2, it will show right side of set 3). It's very rare that I end up needing more buttons than what that provides me. And it's usually just for Sprint that have a different skill set for(has my teleport skills there as well as a few mounts/minions).
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Why don't we let the game play itself while we're at it, since we just want one button for 3 abilities.
    This has nothing do to with difficulty, but with button bloat, esp. if we want to keep our old abilites while getting new ones. The ammount of abilities will stay about the same.

    Actually, if those lost GCD buttons get replaced by oGCDs then it gets harder, because smart oGCD usage and managment is harder than doing just the GCD rotation without fails.
    I mean, really? The only thing you lose difficulty-wise is the possibility to hit the wrong GCD of the combo itself.
    And now ask yourself how often do you think that occurs.... i don't think I ever skipped Maim and did HS->SE without it...

    This is no really difficulty change when you also consider that as soon as SE does those changes, we're probably in an new expac with new skills.
    And I rather lose just buttons and keep the abilites (different 3-GCD combo) to get new skills instead of outright deleting skills.

    I mean, it's pretty obvious.. what sounds more enganging/harder for a new set of skills from the next xpac for idk Ninja using only 3 buttons:
    Level 72 (first GCD of new combo), Level 74 (second GCD of new combo), Level 76 (third GCD of new combo) OR
    Level 72 (new oGCD), Level 74 (new 2- or 3-GCD AoE combo), Level 76 (new oGCD)

    ?
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 11-28-2017 at 02:53 AM.

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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Terrible idea.

    Would make the game stale and boring and it wouldn't work as an optional thing because I don't think they would be able to balance it. In my opinion one of the modes would most definitely have an unfair advantage over the other and will cause balance problems between certain jobs.
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