When will we get the PVP system for PVE ?

[Jijifli]

Why don't we let the game play itself while we're at it, since we just want one button for 3 abilities.

[Neophyte]

Why don't we let the game play itself while we're at it, since we just want one button for 3 abilities.

This has nothing do to with difficulty, but with button bloat, esp. if we want to keep our old abilites while getting new ones. The ammount of abilities will stay about the same.

Actually, if those lost GCD buttons get replaced by oGCDs then it gets harder, because smart oGCD usage and managment is harder than doing just the GCD rotation without fails.
I mean, really? The only thing you lose difficulty-wise is the possibility to hit the wrong GCD of the combo itself.
And now ask yourself how often do you think that occurs.... i don't think I ever skipped Maim and did HS->SE without it...

This is no really difficulty change when you also consider that as soon as SE does those changes, we're probably in an new expac with new skills.
And I rather lose just buttons and keep the abilites (different 3-GCD combo) to get new skills instead of outright deleting skills.

I mean, it's pretty obvious.. what sounds more enganging/harder for a new set of skills from the next xpac for idk Ninja using only 3 buttons:
Level 72 (first GCD of new combo), Level 74 (second GCD of new combo), Level 76 (third GCD of new combo) OR
Level 72 (new oGCD), Level 74 (new 2- or 3-GCD AoE combo), Level 76 (new oGCD)

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[Skivvy]

Hopefully never. If I wanted to watch a game play itself I'd go watch someone on twitch.

Why don't we let the game play itself while we're at it, since we just want one button for 3 abilities.

Stop being so dramatic. Please explain to me how pressing 1, 1, 1 instead of 1, 2, 3 suddenly makes the game play itself?

I suppose if button bloat is where you like to find your 'challenge', you are of course welcome to that opinion. However, condensing combos that are rarely broken-up in the first place to a single button is not going to suddenly make the game play itself.

[Awha]

Stop being so dramatic. Please explain to me how pressing 1, 1, 1 instead of 1, 2, 3 suddenly makes the game play itself?

I suppose if button bloat is where you like to find your 'challenge', you are of course welcome to that opinion. However, condensing combos that are rarely broken-up in the first place to a single button is not going to suddenly make the game play itself.

I think players that are against the idea think it will be like it is in pvp and forced on everyone, if SE made it optional I am sure not many would care.

[Skivvy]

I think players that are against the idea think it will be like it is in pvp and forced on everyone, if SE made it optional I am sure not many would care.

I can only hope that SE would have the foresight to make this optional, but then again, this is SE and they tend to do weird things.

If this gets forced on everyone, I can only imagine the outrage. Make it optional, and both sides can be happy

[Tint]

Why don't we let the game play itself while we're at it, since we just want one button for 3 abilities.

hey, it was stil a lot of fun playing FF12 with a fully automated team, thanks to the gambits xD

[SturmChurro]

Why don't we let the game play itself while we're at it, since we just want one button for 3 abilities.

Put it on mobile too. I wouldn't mind doing some trials on the toilet.

[linay]

Put it on mobile too. I wouldn't mind doing some trials on the toilet.

No way! I don't want to be hearing other people on the toilet over discord!

[LunaTsukihime]

Sigh, looks like I have to agree to disagree with the two lala posters...

But seriously, the game suffers right now from skill bloat, even after the Stormblood changes.

Combining at least the combos into an auto-advancing slot would help alleviate the space problem.

It's not about copy pasting the whole thing into pve but it's improvements.

[Cakekizyy]

Sigh, looks like I have to agree to disagree with the two lala posters...

But seriously, the game suffers right now from skill bloat, even after the Stormblood changes.

Combining at least the combos into an auto-advancing slot would help alleviate the space problem.

It's not about copy pasting the whole thing into pve but it's improvements.

Similar to how Aion does combos?