Healers are way too strong in large scale PvP.

[kensatsu]

Humm the problem is the healer stacked, not the healer potency i guess,
if you have few healers and less potency, i would make them not strong enough.
the thing is there no limit at number of healer.
normaly you should kill a healer easily with 2 or 3 dps. When there too many healer you can't kill them.
Lets think Healers is nerf. The problem would remain the same. less healer from an alliance in mid and you are loosing the game.
The solution would be to limit the amount of healers, but the queue will be longer.

[rxnin]

Either nerf healers or reduce Global Cooldown times for DPS/Tanks, because right now actions feel too clunky. Takes a good 3 seconds to get 1 action of a combo off.

[Reol]

maybe give healed target a healing resist debuff which reduce the heal potency on it for the number of times it have been healed.

[Brill_]

Saw 3 healers take out a tower yesterday by fighting off mammets. No mechs near them on the map, so they fly under the radar.

[BubblyBoar]

Saw 3 healers take out a tower yesterday by fighting off mammets. No mechs near them on the map, so they fly under the radar.

I've solo'd towers with mammets as WHM. It's silly.

[Risvertasashi]

I dont think healers are that op. If you can follow little waymarks and coordinate little your burst, opponents die pretty easily. You just need to do lot fast swaps so healers can not follow what are you attacking. They have weakness as well, they can not kill opressors or other vehicles that easily as dps can and can not heal vehicles either. Ofc you can not kill healers 1v1, but they can not kill you either. They can not do damage while moving so you can freely run away from them.

My personal preference is BLM + BRD. Focus healers first, then everyone else. Haven't found anything that can withstand focus fire from this duo. Waymarks is how we mark targets too.

[Airget]

If I were to make a change to healing in general, I would add something like "Bleeding/Injury".

Basically every time you recover max HP worth of HP you lose 1k HP up to 5 times for either 15-30 seconds.

This would allow healers to continue to do what they do but the fatigue would kick in to those they are healing where they would either end up dying of being forced to pull back for 15-30 seconds to recover. One other thing to add to that, the debuff refreshes if you continue to heal or take dmg so at some point if you want to recover you would need to stay out of combat to fully recover.

[kuma_aus]

Quiet obviously, this is from someone who never fought an army of unkillable healers at center. You know? The part where it is crucial at early stage of game to call out mechs? Oh lord

Teach me, our lord and Savior, how are we suppose to coornidate our actions against 10 healers with CCs at centre? I am all ears

First of all, mid is useless with getting mechs out early. 1 CE every 3 seconds is nothing compared to 10 CE every 3-10 seconds. Mid only helps in the long run if you can keep it under control for a long time. But it certainly doesn't help enough to justify having 10 people just sit there to protect it.

Second of all. If 10 players from your opponents are in the middle protecting the generator, just ignore it. That's 41% of the enemy force all in 1 location away from anything else. Almost half of the opponents. This means you have so much space collecting CE tanks and pushing lanes. If there are only 59% of the enemy player base doing something productive and not just sitting down, you can easily destroy the enemy towers with Mammets alone. And not to mention all those CE tanks you can easily pick up means you can also have mechs out in no time to help with the pushes.

I've solo'd towers with mammets as WHM. It's silly.

That's not WHM's being silly strong. That's your opponents being silly stupid.

[RiyahArp]

It's not upper mid that's the problem, it's lower mid. And lower mid is where you can send three healers and a pld and more or less control it. The tanks there are close together, cruise chasers can't enter it, and once it's held, it's pretty strong generation. If you roam and try for tanks, they are much farther apart, and mammet killing is too slow. If the team plays smart, it's a strong advantage; a lot of you are saying its not op based on the team being really dumb.

[kuma_aus]

It's not upper mid that's the problem, it's lower mid. And lower mid is where you can send three healers and a pld and more or less control it. The tanks there are close together, cruise chasers can't enter it, and once it's held, it's pretty strong generation. If you roam and try for tanks, they are much farther apart, and mammet killing is too slow. If the team plays smart, it's a strong advantage; a lot of you are saying its not op based on the team being really dumb.

And what's stopping your team from sending 3 healers and a PLD to stop the opponents from collecting tanks? Finding 3 healers and a PLD, or something similar out of a group of 24 is not much to ask if it means your opponents will be at the same disadvantage as you. And Mammet kill is fast if you have a good pushing group to support them. I've seen towers fall before an Oppressor can launch a second missile at a tower thanks to the damage from Mammets and players. So maybe 70% of a tower down in the first 3-5 minutes from players and mammets alone. My last match had an oppressor walk all the way north and send a missle to a tower that had 5% health. And it was one of the first mechs to come out. It did walk a bit south, but then it went straight north.