Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
In the context that I see, the +20% is a benefit when active, not a 0% penalty when it is not. I do get what you're saying though, and when trying to push tank DPS as much as possible, you are indeed penalized having Grit active. I just have difficulty assigning it the term "penalty"


No. She said, "Umm, there are still damage penalties in Grit. And I never said Grit doesn't have damage penalties. The tooltip clearly defines that it does. I am pretty sure I said with both Grit and Darkside up there is no damage penalty, but as I already said, I understand why there is still a penalty since it is not possible for a tank to cause the same damage with both Grit and DS up, opposed to just DS.
Unless they buffed darkside to +20%, there's still a -5% penalty.