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    Hopes for the 4.2 Glamour System Revisions

    What do you think the revisions should target? Why? And, what are some ways you think all that might be doable?

    Yes, this is obviously just for killing time, as none of this will be looked at, and the process is clearly too far along even if it were.

    My two cents:
    Perceived Issues:
    - Space Requirement
    - Unnecessarily long process
    - No means to easily change between sets

    A. Each job gains an Appearance set, with a second set of slots (minus belt) in which to equip glamours. Glamour is no longer bound to specific items, but only to these slots.

    B. There is only a single type of glamour prism, though it can be created through a different formula per crafter. Crafters can enact the same effect as glamour prisms without needing to make or consume an items if they have sufficient proficiency in the item's repair type. These Appearance items can be toggled to reveal your actual gear at any time.

    C1. All items ever bound to you are added to a log (appending 0/1 achievements per item memorized) for future use. Glamour Prisms then allow you to transfer any of these appearances to your slots.

    -or-

    C2. You can use Glamour Prisms to store items in your Mirage Prism, a sort of glamour log, with a certain maximum storage amount. Glamours then may be applied from your Mirage Prism (1) freely, (2) for a nominal gil cost, or (3) for additional Prism consumption.

    D. A spread of Appearances attached to a given job may be saved as a set. It can still be equipped by other jobs insofar as its individual appearances are (those that can transfer will be upon activating the set from a different job, and those that can't won't).
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    Inventory Space!!!!!!!!!!

    Im praying really for a glamour log to be added into the game to me everything else is secondary. I have one retainer full of glamour items and thats showing great restraint on what i choose to keep.
    If that space could be free'd i'd be happy
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    I'd be content if they just copied the wardrobe system from WoW or GW2.
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    I'd like options to glamour from other classes (for example, let me wear tank armor on my white mage. I can already armor up with certain armored looking items, and tanks can already run around on bikinis, so that's already out the window).

    In addition, I'd like there to be options to combine pieces, though I realize that's much less likely. For example, let me wear those glasses with that hat. Let me combine this skirt with those leggings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    A. Each job gains an Appearance set, with a second set of slots (minus belt) in which to equip glamours. Glamour is no longer bound to specific items, but only to these slots.
    I for one am not really into this idea... I have almost every job unlocked and the majority of my gear sets are just different glamours for my White Mage. So I'd be sad if I could only have one Glamour set per class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    C1. All items ever bound to you are added to a log (appending 0/1 achievements per item memorized) for future use. Glamour Prisms then allow you to transfer any of these appearances to your slots.
    -or-
    C2. You can use Glamour Prisms to store items in your Mirage Prism, a sort of glamour log, with a certain maximum storage amount. Glamours then may be applied from your Mirage Prism (1) freely, (2) for a nominal gil cost, or (3) for additional Prism consumption.
    D. A spread of Appearances attached to a given job may be saved as a set. It can still be equipped by other jobs insofar as its individual appearances are (those that can transfer will be upon activating the set from a different job, and those that can't won't).
    Both of these are pretty good options in my opinion. 1 might be a bit of an issue in tracking up until this point because not everyone keeps every item bound to them, either by converting to materia or just vendoring. So the Mirage Prism seems more suitable overall... And it works really nice with the class glamour thing too... What I'd like to see is "Glamor sets" along with "gear sets" and easy ways to glamor a set onto another set of gear.
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    I'd like to see this:

    A: Each job gains the ability to have its own appearance, regardless of whether it shares gear with another job.

    B: Glamour log. when you gain a piece of gear and it binds to you, it gets added to a log ala WoW's Transmog system. you can then use that appearance for glamour anytime.

    C: If it even still matters, we can keep glamour prisms around by requiring them to swap appearances using the log.
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    things I really want
    1. No more glamour prisms, maybe using just A prism for everything OR something else like paying Gil.
    2. A Look Book like WoW so you don't have the items. OR In Wildstar you can pay money to put an item in a thing so it doesn't use up space and you can use it for glamour. You can then later always get rid of it because there it only a certain a mount of items you can "store".
    3. More dye colors (normal ones not cash shop ones)
    4. When you glamour gear, it stays when you switch your normal gear out. if that makes sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrini View Post
    I for one am not really into this idea... I have almost every job unlocked and the majority of my gear sets are just different glamours for my White Mage. So I'd be sad if I could only have one Glamour set per class.
    This is merely a way of mounting the appearances; in itself, it runs into the same issue as attaching multiple glamours to a single job and gear set would now, but does at least allow for multiple appearances while retaining the same gear across multiple jobs. I've provided no capped free-swap option here, but that is not to say that it can't support one. Ideally, I'd imagine that if C1 is somehow too server-taxing (though this would mean that the none bimodal achievements we already support so many of ought to be as well), then C2 would simply allow for a 100 or so images saved regardless of slot or appearance, and then you simply open up your character tag, click on the slot's bracket (distinct from the gear within), click "Glamour", which will cause the Appearances / Mirage Prism pane to open, and then click on the Appearance (from among those sorted by slot, with other non-job-applicable choices for that slot greyed out beneath the applicable ones) you want to assign, and hit Accept (given sufficient gil or a prism, if such gil sinks are deemed necessary).

    Similarly, you can keep the Appearances / Mirage Prism tab open and just mix and match to the wardrobe from there and save sets as you like, so long as no two or more parts require distinct jobs. You can then apply a whole set (merely as a shortcut for applying its elements piece by piece) from a Glamour Set menu, the button for which would be located right next to the Gear Sets button. These sets can also be stored by name in the Appearances / Mirage Prism tab itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terrini View Post
    1 might be a bit of an issue in tracking up until this point because not everyone keeps every item bound to them, either by converting to materia or just vendoring.
    In the C1 example, the gear needs only to have been bound to you once to be added. From the moment you equip and "Add to Mirage Prism" or gain experience while wearing it (automatically adding it to the Mirage Prism), it's yours to keep forever, within your Glamour Log.

    The main questions I worry over here is simply how to supply 'gil sink', which so many tend to excuse inconveniences by, with minimal inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    In addition, I'd like there to be options to combine pieces, though I realize that's much less likely. For example, let me wear those glasses with that hat. Let me combine this skirt with those leggings.
    Basically this. Also make more gear dyable/expand the armoire to include at least promo gear if not blue rating or higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    In addition, I'd like there to be options to combine pieces, though I realize that's much less likely. For example, let me wear those glasses with that hat. Let me combine this skirt with those leggings.
    I wouldn't dare hope for as much, since I'll get to attached to the idea, but some things I'd love to see in future designs:
    • Modular Gear - Don't like that shoulder pad? Swap it. Don't like your butt-wings? Toss 'em.
    • Immediately Dyable Gear -- All but perhaps cheaper-version crafted gear and normal mode raid gear are immediately dyable. (You can still provide incentives to grab a redyed set by simply changing the dye set -- i.e. where the dye is placed around the item, similar to how many other dye systems allow for multiple dye settings within a single piece.)
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