Thread: Hopes for the 4.2 Glamour System Revisions

Think of how much more user friendly things would be if we had
1. A glamour log
2. A "material bag"/separate inventory for mats

Originally Posted by Fredco191

Removing the class restrictions from the DoH/DoL gear.


I just want the Lv 50 Weaver coat.

The biggest thing I want is being able to wear anything I want on any job regardless of what it is, and to be able to have different glamours between jobs sharing the same gear sets.

SWTOR and LoTR has the best outfit system. GW2 has the best storage system for glamour items.

I honestly don't expect much. It's a massive project to do an outfit system properly and I'm not sure the team for FFXIV has the manpower or backing.

The sad part is, if the developers were able to spend the time to create a good outfit system, they could monetize it easily by creating and selling more outfits on the mog station. They could even allow people to buy outfits on the mog station and sell them on the auction house to other players who have more gil than real life money.

The mere fact that the developers still refuse to allow every outfit on their cash shop to be dyed and usable by both male and female characters gives me little hope for a decent outfit system.

Originally Posted by illgot

SWTOR and LoTR has the best outfit system. GW2 has the best storage system for glamour items.

I honestly don't expect much. It's a massive project to do an outfit system properly and I'm not sure the team for FFXIV has the manpower or backing.

The sad part is, if the developers were able to spend the time to create a good outfit system, they could monetize it easily by creating and selling more outfits on the mog station. They could even allow people to buy outfits on the mog station and sell them on the auction house to other players who have more gil than real life money.

That's called RMT which is strictly a big no in their book, plus unless you're amongst the uber rich in this game aka already have a house, maxed out crafters, etc buying those things would be way beyond the average person's reach.

Originally Posted by Shouko

That's called RMT which is strictly a big no in their book, plus unless you're amongst the uber rich in this game aka already have a house, maxed out crafters, etc buying those things would be way beyond the average person's reach.

RMT only counts if SE doesn't get the money.

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

A. Each job gains an Appearance set, with a second set of slots (minus belt) in which to equip glamours. Glamour is no longer bound to specific items, but only to these slots.

I for one am not really into this idea... I have almost every job unlocked and the majority of my gear sets are just different glamours for my White Mage. So I'd be sad if I could only have one Glamour set per class.

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

C1. All items ever bound to you are added to a log (appending 0/1 achievements per item memorized) for future use. Glamour Prisms then allow you to transfer any of these appearances to your slots.
-or-
C2. You can use Glamour Prisms to store items in your Mirage Prism, a sort of glamour log, with a certain maximum storage amount. Glamours then may be applied from your Mirage Prism (1) freely, (2) for a nominal gil cost, or (3) for additional Prism consumption.
D. A spread of Appearances attached to a given job may be saved as a set. It can still be equipped by other jobs insofar as its individual appearances are (those that can transfer will be upon activating the set from a different job, and those that can't won't).

Both of these are pretty good options in my opinion. 1 might be a bit of an issue in tracking up until this point because not everyone keeps every item bound to them, either by converting to materia or just vendoring. So the Mirage Prism seems more suitable overall... And it works really nice with the class glamour thing too... What I'd like to see is "Glamor sets" along with "gear sets" and easy ways to glamor a set onto another set of gear.

Originally Posted by Terrini

I for one am not really into this idea... I have almost every job unlocked and the majority of my gear sets are just different glamours for my White Mage. So I'd be sad if I could only have one Glamour set per class.

This is merely a way of mounting the appearances; in itself, it runs into the same issue as attaching multiple glamours to a single job and gear set would now, but does at least allow for multiple appearances while retaining the same gear across multiple jobs. I've provided no capped free-swap option here, but that is not to say that it can't support one. Ideally, I'd imagine that if C1 is somehow too server-taxing (though this would mean that the none bimodal achievements we already support so many of ought to be as well), then C2 would simply allow for a 100 or so images saved regardless of slot or appearance, and then you simply open up your character tag, click on the slot's bracket (distinct from the gear within), click "Glamour", which will cause the Appearances / Mirage Prism pane to open, and then click on the Appearance (from among those sorted by slot, with other non-job-applicable choices for that slot greyed out beneath the applicable ones) you want to assign, and hit Accept (given sufficient gil or a prism, if such gil sinks are deemed necessary).

Similarly, you can keep the Appearances / Mirage Prism tab open and just mix and match to the wardrobe from there and save sets as you like, so long as no two or more parts require distinct jobs. You can then apply a whole set (merely as a shortcut for applying its elements piece by piece) from a Glamour Set menu, the button for which would be located right next to the Gear Sets button. These sets can also be stored by name in the Appearances / Mirage Prism tab itself.

Originally Posted by Terrini

1 might be a bit of an issue in tracking up until this point because not everyone keeps every item bound to them, either by converting to materia or just vendoring.

In the C1 example, the gear needs only to have been bound to you once to be added. From the moment you equip and "Add to Mirage Prism" or gain experience while wearing it (automatically adding it to the Mirage Prism), it's yours to keep forever, within your Glamour Log.

The main questions I worry over here is simply how to supply 'gil sink', which so many tend to excuse inconveniences by, with minimal inconvenience.

I'd like to see this:

A: Each job gains the ability to have its own appearance, regardless of whether it shares gear with another job.

B: Glamour log. when you gain a piece of gear and it binds to you, it gets added to a log ala WoW's Transmog system. you can then use that appearance for glamour anytime.

C: If it even still matters, we can keep glamour prisms around by requiring them to swap appearances using the log.

things I really want
1. No more glamour prisms, maybe using just A prism for everything OR something else like paying Gil.
2. A Look Book like WoW so you don't have the items. OR In Wildstar you can pay money to put an item in a thing so it doesn't use up space and you can use it for glamour. You can then later always get rid of it because there it only a certain a mount of items you can "store".
3. More dye colors (normal ones not cash shop ones)
4. When you glamour gear, it stays when you switch your normal gear out. if that makes sense