It's past time, Yoshi-P...

[MoroMurasaki]

I dont think that you are a bad person but to me it seems that you are not able (like many others here) to handle persons well that have their own opinion (witch dosnt fit your own) and stick with it.

People who hold your opinions on healer DPS have something in common that really bothers me, especially as a healer - a lack of concern for your group. It is not your opinions and how they relate to optimization that bothers me but rather the way they relate to everyone having a fast, fun experience in whatever content they're running. You're letting your opinions negatively impact the experience of other players.

That's my problem with you.

/laugh

Well, Hyomin has arrived. (/happy) But, where's Tridus and Seabazy? We are in the part of the debate where the thread troll just played the victim card.

Kacho! *hugs* Happy you're here

[Miste]

I'm glad Moro, Bourne, and Hyomin are here...because I am simply too tired to fully explain the issues with that "I'm a healer so I only need to heal attitude" again xD

[Missbone]

Where do you draw the line in where a votekick is justified?

I never start a votekick because of bad playstyle. If something like you say realy happens the tank gets his mistake realy fast the one or the nother way.

Btw. while i was reading your previous post i couldnt realy understand how it whas possible for you not to run oom when the group plays bad, until i saw that you mention lucid. I used it so far only to reduce my aggro if i had got some adds. I never noticed that it also restores your mana.^^

[MoroMurasaki]

I'm glad Moro, Bourne, and Hyomin are here...because I am simply too tired to fully explain the issues with that "I'm a healer so I only need to heal attitude" again xD

And now you don't have to.

Also sometimes I think of copy/pasting posts of yours (in quotes of course) into these discussions since its almost always the same thing anyways.

Thanks for dropping by!

[Maeka]

I never start a votekick because of bad playstyle. If something like you say realy happens the tank gets his mistake realy fast the one or the nother way.

Btw. while i was reading your previous post i couldnt realy understand how it whas possible for you not to run oom when the group plays bad, until i saw that you mention lucid. I used it so far only to reduce my aggro if i had got some adds. I never noticed that it also restores your mana.^^

They really SHOULD change the Tooltip so that it is more clear as to what it actually does. There's been discussions on this.

BUT now that you know, you will try to throw some DPS now that you know you absolutely cannot run out of MP?

[Kacho_Nacho]

People who hold your opinions on healer DPS have something in common that really bothers me, especially as a healer - a lack of concern for your group. It is not your opinions and how they relate to optimization that bothers me but rather the way they relate to everyone having a fast, fun experience in whatever content they're running. You're letting your opinions negatively impact the experience of other players.

That's my problem with you.



Kacho! *hugs* Happy you're here

Hi Moro!

/hug

It was inevitable that this thread would morph into a healer dps thread. After all, it's ultimately a debate about how much a healer should heal versus deal damage versus stand there and do nothing.

Now, I believe there is some wiggle room to make healing a touch harder; thus, ensure healers actually heal rather than deal damage. But, it's been pointed out that this may raise the bar too high for a percentage of the healer base. So, I've since pulled up a chair to watch the debate unfold.

It's been interesting and I have enjoyed your and Hyomin's posts very much. I'll jump in when I feel I can contribute more to the discussion.

P.S. Hi Miste! /joy

[Enla]

They really SHOULD change the Tooltip so that it is more clear as to what it actually does. There's been discussions on this.

BUT now that you know, you will try to throw some DPS now that you know you absolutely cannot run out of MP?

Yeah that was an issue even back when it was called Shroud of Saints and it boggles my mind that they never updated it when it became a Cross-Class skill.

[Missbone]

They really SHOULD change the Tooltip so that it is more clear as to what it actually does. There's been discussions on this.

BUT now that you know, you will try to throw some DPS now that you know you absolutely cannot run out of MP?

That i cant promise, but i surly will use Lucid more often from now on to prevent mana issues like i had before sometimes.

[Enla]

That i cant promise, but i surly will use Lucid more often from now on to prevent mana issues like i had before sometimes.

General rule of thumb is to use it around the 70-80% MP range and just use it on cooldown or as needed. It'll solve pretty much all your issues if you also use Thin Air while Lucid is on cooldown.

[MoroMurasaki]

They really SHOULD change the Tooltip so that it is more clear as to what it actually does. There's been discussions on this.

BUT now that you know, you will try to throw some DPS now that you know you absolutely cannot run out of MP?

I agree with this sooooo much. All it says is 'Refresh' if memory serves and as there are no big "mp restored" numbers like Assize you have to wonder why they've left it so vague.

I hope Miss decides to give this a shot now that she has the tools to basically infinite mana.

That i cant promise, but i surly will use Lucid more often from now on to prevent mana issues like i had before sometimes.

I'm glad you got something out of this thread.

If you have an alt on Aether (not sure where you live or if that's even possible) I would gladly party with you to help you work on DPSing as a healer if it was something you were interested in.