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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I'm not going to give you advice about MP management or the mitigation potential of Holy, not even the gigantic mitigation offered by enemies dying faster. You know why? Because you don't seem like the kind of person that cares about doing well even when it is detrimental to your group.
    They'd have to pry Holy from my cold-dead fingers if they ever forcibly shifted the meta towards a more 'pure' healing playstyle. I don't even use it for damage in most cases, though I remember the dreaded days of T4, just popping it a few seconds into a pull gives me enough time to top everyone off and throw out my own dots to help make the pull go that much smoother.

    That also brings me to another point. Where does SCH sit in this new meta people are proposing? That classes entire schtick is rooted in mitigation and damage output, to the point they had to GIVE US BACK A DOT a patch into Stormblood because their attempt to make our class more 'healing' focused was so woefully at odds with how the class should be played. We also had to get potency buffs across the board as well for our shields and aetherpact is still somemwhat under performing compared to a macro'd faerie. I'd hate to see what would happen to that class if the developers suddenly decided to shift the meta. They barely know what to do with it as is.
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    They'd have to pry Holy from my cold-dead fingers if they ever forcibly shifted the meta towards a more 'pure' healing playstyle. I don't even use it for damage in most cases, though I remember the dreaded days of T4, just popping it a few seconds into a pull gives me enough time to top everyone off and throw out my own dots to help make the pull go that much smoother.

    That also brings me to another point. Where does SCH sit in this new meta people are proposing? That classes entire schtick is rooted in mitigation and damage output, to the point they had to GIVE US BACK A DOT a patch into Stormblood because their attempt to make our class more 'healing' focused was so woefully at odds with how the class should be played. We also had to get potency buffs across the board as well for our shields and aetherpact is still somemwhat under performing compared to a macro'd faerie. I'd hate to see what would happen to that class if the developers suddenly decided to shift the meta.
    Honestly if they shifted towards a 'healers only heal' meta I don't know if I would still be here. Tree gin of healing (for me) is the adaptation. If you take away half my kit and I'm just a Cure II bot.... Why? I guess I've liked tanking so far, maybe I would switch mains.

    But yes, they'd be prying Holy away from me as well. It's one of my favorite abilities in the game. There is little more satisfying than a PLD popping Hallowed at the end of a megapull and getting to throw up Cleric, PoM, Thin Air and just light everything on fire.

    In terms of SCH it is certainly the healer I've played the least of this expansion so far. I loved it in HW and for me the Bane nerf just hit me right in the feelings. I appreciate the efforts of the devs with Miasma II but it just doesn't feel as powerful as spreading all those dots at full potency to 10+ enemies to me. It's also less spam-worthy compared to WHM/AST. I think SCH would have a hard time adapting to a pure healer world, they'd likely have to nerf fairies into the ground which would be a real hit to their identity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    They'd have to pry Holy from my cold-dead fingers if they ever forcibly shifted the meta towards a more 'pure' healing playstyle.
    Having healers spend the majority of their time healing in group content doesn't mean eliminating dps spells. Healer jobs need to be able to solo out in the open world, too, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Having healers spend the majority of their time healing in group content doesn't mean eliminating dps spells. Healer jobs need to be able to solo out in the open world, too, after all.
    And yet Holy has still received numerous nerfs and solo DPS for healers at the beginning of this patch cycle was a nightmare. Every healer main I'm acquainted with had a nightmare of a time soloing through SB compared to HW due to the the developers trying to focus on making healers /heal/ more by nerfing Cleric Stance and many of our kits. Which, as of this current part of the cycle has mostly been undone and with good reason with the exception of Cleric's. The issue here is that these developers don't know how to make both sides viable and tend to take a ratchet to the perceived problem rather than a screw. So forgive me if I honestly can very easily see them blundering in just a bad a way if they tried to forcibly shift the meta yet again.
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