Open world PvP Zone

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

I do play the frontline considerably but I am against the idea of open pvp. System wise, it will always be bard/ machnest trimph under current balttle system. It is boring and pointless.

I've seen many good SAMs too lately. And no, healer still OP if it's 1 vs 1. Open world provides mechanism for NINs for more ambush, they can have 1-2 mobs for suiton on the road/go.

[Kisagami]

I did my own thread about what kind of PVP activities I could get behind. Open world I will never be a fan of for the pure fact people like to bully, but PVP with set teams and objectives I love very much. I’m not against PVP. I just would like something with a fair and community building environment.

[Awha]

I do not get it what the OP asked for is a open world pvp zone, a piece of optional content for those that enjoy it. Why is this community so against PvP as an optional mode of entertainment? You can say it is because people are toxic, but PvE can be just as toxic. I mean this community baby rages when they end up with healers that do not dps, tanks that stay in tank stance, and tanks that refuse to do not large pulls. Often resulting in people vote kicking others for a difference in play style. Mind you this happens for content aimed for the casual player base. Yet people complain about PvP being toxic to the point where they remove chat from feast, yet hardly anyone ever defends those that get treated poorly for playing sub-par in PvE.

Not going to lie I am toxic as fuck, and I do run ganking parties in other games for shits and giggles. So yeah I am one of those players that will be a so called bully. Though what people seem to not understand one does not have to take part in PvP so if you do not like it do not take part. Do not complain about how people are toxic in an optional game mode. What the community should be doing is complaining about the toxic nature in a game mode that is required to progress through the game itself, PvE content.

People rarely become toxic fucks out of the blue. Maybe in their eyes your play was sub par, or you simply do not match the groups play style. In PvP we cannot kick people for difference of play style yet it is okay for PvE.

I guess what I do not get is why are people so worried about the so called toxic pvp community which is 100% optional to be a part of. Only thing really gated behind PvP is glamour, yet people ignore the toxic PvE community. Please do not try yo tell me PvE community is not toxic, that it happens within a vacuum, cause you know what same could be said about the PvP community.

So please someone tell me why we should not support optional content without bringing in personal bias.

[Laerune]

I dont think an open world pvp zone would work, but why not a big zone that is 24/7 active, there are castles, players can start a war with each other. To enter this zone you use the duty finder.

[Shirolumi]

Openworld PvP?

Never!

I know that from some other games. The door for Griefing and Bulling is open then and I would be out from this game.

PvP belongs in areas PvP players can not bug PvE players. Everything else is BS.

An open world PvP zone. As in an PvP area where they can not bug PvE players.

I dont think an open world pvp zone would work, but why not a big zone that is 24/7 active, there are castles, players can start a war with each other. To enter this zone you use the duty finder.

Sure, that would be nice. The only thing would be declining queues if they release another mode, wouldn't want it to be like Diadem where you can never enter it. Hopefully will be fixed with the weekly thing they have planning.

[uku]

i do like the idea but let just say take pvp beast tribes cause that will cause a uproar of bully reasons and fate cause i'm having flash back of rocks from shatter ugh... annoying to deal with, unless it is worth it probably will fit with 16 v 16 have them go to this objective to fight for it and grants a buff for the team it be like a team death match while going solo play be different

1. I would love a environment pvp area like volcanic activity filled with caves and castles/houses the caves will have gushers and water while castles/houses is to climb up on cause of some area will be filled with lava where bottom areas are when a certain time make the volcano erupt shooting rocks at us which means you won't see a aoe but the damage is 50% of your hp gone only safe places is caves or castles/houses. if you die from a player/environment that will reduce your points just like FL
2. each kills will give us 5 wolf marks while adding a new mark something a name of it like lion marks or demi marks for solo play but 16 v 16 you won't get the reward but for wins more reward just like all those pvp modes rewarding i would like to take exp out cause of reason bots who come in just for exp > .>

[uku]

3. can have a 4 party members limited
4. place where you can hide but that means it can lead to your death if not trend carefully what you said about water but there will be a mob in there hitting you with damage like piranhas that hurts through time if staying far too long even a shark will kill you if you are close to it so ya you can swim to other areas but it is a dangerous place like all adventures be doing taking risk in order to survive or die this is solo only. while 16 v 16 doesn't have water but you can go into castles/caves to stay safe/hidden from enemies to regroup/ambush
2. each kills will give us 5 wolf marks while adding a new mark something a name of it like lion marks or demi marks for solo play but 16 v 16 you won't get the reward but for wins more reward just like all those pvp modes rewarding i would like to take exp out cause of reason bots who come in just for exp > .>
3. can have a 4 party members limited
4. place where you can hide but that means it can lead to your death if not trend carefully what you said about water but there will be a mob in there hitting you with damage like piranhas that hurts through time if staying far too long even a shark will kill you if you are close to it so ya you can swim to other areas but it is a dangerous place like all adventures be doing taking risk in order to survive or die this is solo only while 16 v 16 there is no water but can go into castles/caves to stay safe from enemies for now and regroup to your team

[uku]

5. a new area to hangout like wolves den a place you go grab like what you said shirolumi but add with emote i would love to have emote as rewards
6. don't add tanks/healers for solo we don't want that to break the solo game play only parties

this maybe too much to add but that is my pvp dream right there to have fun where the kills are rewarding for solo/party that is death match no objective for solo only party for objective for the teams to fight for power

[Wintersandman]

There are sooo many contradicting points from PvE players opposing a PvP zone.

1. It doesn't fit into the lore
- Yet there was an entire duty where the WoL sided with Ishgard against Adders, Flames and Mael with Raubahn being the last person to face. So yes the factions do fight and this would fit into the Lore.

2. Toxicity - Queue up for DF sometime. Watch the griefing begin. 24 mans are a perfect example. Shoot I stay away from PF because (must have clear, seen X phase, etc) as those are all form of locking out players who are less experienced. So I never see relevant hard content because I don't want to deal with the elitism. Yeah I could form my own group but I get to watch peoples patience wear thin. You see learning parties state (stay for the end) because people leave so quickly. It may not be verbally toxic but it isn't helpful either.

3. Bullying/Griefing - One zone is going to cause more griefing than.... hunts? yeah I think not.

4. FFXIV community won't get behind an open world zone - FFXIV community is also made up of a lot of FFXI veterans and there were 3 open world zones that had PvP. For those of you too young to experience it, it was called Ballista. Also yet another example of how PvP and PvE can coexist.

5. Go to another game - There is a reason why we are playing this game. FFXIV is a theme park MMO where you don't have to get everything or participate in everything. Maybe I like the story and the classes but I want to PvP with those classes in this game. You don't have to participate.

6. No story involved - Gatherers were told to suck it up and complete the story just so they could unlock the new zones. Why would it hurt to have a beast tribe that is pvp focused? It isn't necessarily story related. I don't see how the Moogle beast tribe was relevant "story content". It is optional you don't have to participate.

[Kisagami]

6. No story involved - Gatherers were told to suck it up and complete the story just so they could unlock the new zones. Why would it hurt to have a beast tribe that is pvp focused? It isn't necessarily story related. I don't see how the Moogle beast tribe was relevant "story content". It is optional you don't have to participate.

I love every Beast Quest, Side Quest, and lore based story. It helps me see the world more indepth. I try yo finish as much of the map as I can in each area, but if we add open world PVP I’d never get half of much done because I’d be paranoid some ganker is going yo come up behind me while I’m turning in/reading a quest. It ruins everything for me. How many times in Archeage did I stop to talk to a quest giver or take my time doing a quest when some random jerk decided to stalk the most common quests to get easy kills?

So NO.