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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calteru View Post
    Luck is a trainable skill. The ability to recognize opportunity + the ability to make use of opportunities recognized = luck. Sounds like you don't have as fast of a connection. Did you consider coordinating with a friend who has a faster connection?

    What did you do to prepare for this contest? You HAVE participated in a land rush, yes?
    Luck is not a trainable skill. Luck is circumstances beyond one's control benefitting one. The key is circumstances are out of your control.

    Can one turn unfortunate events to their advantage? Yes. But what happened on 4.1 is not something that could have been planned for or worked around without circumstances beyond one's control benefitting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Luck is not a trainable skill. Luck is circumstances beyond one's control benefitting one. The key is circumstances are out of your control.
    Luck is DEFINITELY a trainable skill. And I don't know about you, but I definitely planned for it. I was up an hour before the servers went live so as to ensure installation of the patch went properly. (It didn't. The launcher borked. Was I "lucky" to be up with enough time to fix it? No. I planned for it.) I even did research into which number was least likely to be selected out of the given range of wards. Sure enough, Ward 8 was one of the last to sell out. So that was my target.

    As far as the queue goes, I was trying to log in about 10 minutes before it was even time. I knew everyone else would be trying too. Luck? Nope. Experience.

    I wasn't able to control EVERY aspect of the experience. But I was definitely in control of the ones that could be controlled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calteru View Post
    Luck is DEFINITELY a trainable skill. And I don't know about you, but I definitely planned for it. I was up an hour before the servers went live so as to ensure installation of the patch went properly. (It didn't. The launcher borked. Was I "lucky" to be up with enough time to fix it? No. I planned for it.) I even did research into which number was least likely to be selected out of the given range of wards. Sure enough, Ward 8 was one of the last to sell out. So that was my target.

    As far as the queue goes, I was trying to log in about 10 minutes before it was even time. I knew everyone else would be trying too. Luck? Nope. Experience.

    I wasn't able to control EVERY aspect of the experience. But I was definitely in control of the ones that could be controlled.
    Interesting because Hyomin and I were up several hours before the patch went live and had it downloaded well before. Both of us were spamming the World icon to refresh the launcher and connected at precisely 6am EST. What happened? Server lobby error crashed the whole launcher, which wouldn't restart due to faulty programming-- something the devs later acknowledged and issued an emergency patch for. Basically, we did everything you did except you were luckier than us. So, please, go ahead and explain how this is a trainable asset that both of lack.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Interesting because Hyomin and I were up several hours before the patch went live and had it downloaded well before. Both of us were spamming the World icon to refresh the launcher and connected at precisely 6am EST. What happened? Server lobby error crashed the whole launcher, which wouldn't restart due to faulty programming-- something the devs later acknowledged and issued an emergency patch for. Basically, we did everything you did except you were luckier than us. So, please, go ahead and explain how this is a trainable asset that both of lack.
    Okay hang on you and Hyomin hang out? I need to get in on this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Okay hang on you and Hyomin hang out? I need to get in on this
    Mhm! Characters are married too

    Welcome to visit us or DM on discord if you ever want to. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calteru View Post
    Luck is DEFINITELY a trainable skill.And I don't know about you, but I definitely planned for it. I was up an hour before the servers went live so as to ensure installation of the patch went properly. (It didn't. The launcher borked. Was I "lucky" to be up with enough time to fix it? No. I planned for it.) I even did research into which number was least likely to be selected out of the given range of wards. Sure enough, Ward 8 was one of the last to sell out. So that was my target.

    As far as the queue goes, I was trying to log in about 10 minutes before it was even time. I knew everyone else would be trying too. Luck? Nope. Experience.

    I wasn't able to control EVERY aspect of the experience. But I was definitely in control of the ones that could be controlled.
    You did nothing differnt then 10,000's of people, the "luck" part is you didn't get hit with a error or Q........ All the pre-nonsense you mentioned guess what most of us did heck my crew of 9 didnt sleep .we downloaded the patch the min it went live you know when pc people got screwed over for the first 15 mins and ps4 (like me) downloaded it in 3 mins. and we sat u the rest of the night talking till servers went live 4 of us got right in 5 didnt (2ppl in the same house 1 got in 1 didnt). you cant train for luck

    When the game devs come out and say how sorry they were for the errors people got when trying to loggin. there is no preparing for errors.
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 11-12-2017 at 04:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    You did nothing differnt then 10,000's of people, the "luck" part is you didn't get hit with a error or Q........ All the pre-nonsense you mentioned guess what most of us did heck my crew of 9 didnt sleep .we downloaded the patch the min it went live you know when pc people got screwed over for the first 15 mins and ps4 (like me) downloaded it in 3 mins. and we sat u the rest of the night talking till servers went live 4 of us got right in 5 didnt you cant train for luck

    When the game devs come out and say how sorry they were for the errors people got when trying to loggin. there is no preparing for errors.
    I was downloaded and ready before launch, and applied the fix that was found for the bad launcher about 30 minutes before the server went live. Yes. You CAN prepare for errors. I certainly did, which is why I was ready to go and others weren't.

    I'd say "better luck next time", but 4.1 was the last land rush. Glad I got to participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calteru View Post
    I was downloaded and ready before launch, and applied the fix that was found for the bad launcher about 30 minutes before the server went live. Yes. You CAN prepare for errors. I certainly did, which is why I was ready to go.
    My version check error required a complete reinstall. I keep a partial back up on hand just in case something like this happens which shortens the process considerably.

    It sounds like your fix did not require such a drastic method. So tell me, again, how could I have been more prepared? I had been playing just fine till servers went offline, it was only once the patch went live for download the error cropped up. I was still done downloading just before servers went live. Then a 9002 error hit, an error caused by SE themseleves and nothing on the player's end. That put me in an 800 person queue. I logged in five minutes late and wasn't able to relocate as planned.

    Tell me, how could I have been better prepared? What other possible step could I have taken? How do you prevent an error not caused by your hardware or connection but by the game's own server?

    Simple, you don't. SE admitted that their servers malfunctioned under the login strain. They hotfixed a glitch that prevented people from transferring their homes. It is right there in their statements and at this point you are being willfully ignorant and intentionally inflammatory.

    Good day ser.
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    Last edited by Keridwyn; 11-13-2017 at 02:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calteru View Post
    I was downloaded and ready before launch, and applied the fix that was found for the bad launcher about 30 minutes before the server went live. Yes. You CAN prepare for errors. I certainly did, which is why I was ready to go and others weren't.

    I'd say "better luck next time", but 4.1 was the last land rush. Glad I got to participate.
    ahhh see you assume lol my wife n i got right i personaly didnt 2 $&^% about shiro housing since ive had 3 houses for a year, my wife did get her beach front in shiro, because she didnt get screwed by errors n q's, as i stated others were ready to they just got hit with errors and q times you can not prepare for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    ahhh see you assume lol my wife n i got right i personaly didnt 2 $&^% about shiro housing since ive had 3 houses for a year, my wife did get her beach front in shiro, because she didnt get screwed by errors n q's, as i stated others were ready to they just got hit with errors and q times you can not prepare for
    Believe whatever gets you through, I guess. Now if you'll excuse me.
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