Lets speak about Mentor's.

[Derio]

I have the crown, but I don't have all the EX cleared. In the past I would run the mentor roulette, but gave up on the mount because it was way too many runs required and the effort required was crazy. However most of the time when you run mentor roulette before SB dropped as a tank I would get easy things like Satasha and stuff that was mainly in leveling roulette.

[ChocoFeru]

Today I've seen a Mentor hovering right in Front of the Quest Giver from the Beast Tribe at the Ruby See so you couldn't see the Quest Mark. He stayed there for at least 3 Minutes (till I left the Area). Good Behavior for a Mentor, no?

If you're using keyboard, use Tab to target the npc.

If you're using gamepad, just press the action button and it will ignore all the players/pets and just target the npc you have in front of you.

If nothing works, check your target filters or make a new one to only target NPCs.

I play with gamepad and I've never had a problem like this, even if there are 100 people with mounts collapsing the NPC; I'll just press "X" on my gamepad and it will select the NPC.

[Paladinleeds]

You have confirmed my previous post. Your Problem is called "Helper's syndrome"

The fact you're making up disabilities as you go along now just proves others' points. As someone with a genuine learning disability I find that rather insulting tbh. When I have my crown up, I'm doing it to help. I will co-ordinate and try and get other people in to help. I will help secure clears. I will teach. I will guide. And fun fact for you, I don't let my learning disability stop me. And I hope we can break the stereotypes surrounding learning disability as well. But I digress...

Fact is, you've shown you have no compassion towards mentors and believes if someone wants to help for the sake of helping, they must automatically have some fabricated learning disability that you come up with on the spot. That is a problem and I daresay speaks volumes about you in a negative light. The fact you so adamantly believe this means I'm wasting my time here most likely, but I'm still going to do what I can to convince you otherwise.

[Toluthin]

I wish the requirement for getting into the novice network was lower. I play this game like once in a blue moon and by the time I get back, I forget literally everything. It would be nice if you didn't have to be level 50.

[silverlunarfox]

snip the junk

You did say that though. You specifically pointed out you did the 2000 roulettes. You are acting as entitled as possible placing blame completely on sprouts. I encounter alot of lazy/shitty people in normal roulettes and these forums and hey guess what, the internet in general. Being a complete jerk about it won't change anything. As a mentor I have more positive experiences than negative ones, but thats because I am more positive than negative, even if we wipe for the 15th time at Hashmal in RC. I'd rather people learn than go off and make other people (like you ) miserable. So maybe its your attitude thats still the issue here. I mentor cuz I love people and I DO do it from the bottom of my heart. People like me turn this into a "hyperbole and circus" because overly negative nancies like you make it seem like its EVERYONE elses fault and not your own.

[Ilan]

You're being pretty horrendously rude and generalizing right there, so. There's that. Not justifying the language Starflake chose to use in the least, but come on.



While some things are glaringly obvious, you'll often hear complaints about performance from people who don't know how other jobs even operate. One of the most prominent if basic examples is blaming RDMs for lack of heals/raising when they're lower than the relevant levels for those skills. So while I concede you can often tell how bad someone is without having played that specific job, or even their role, you'll also very often see people who complain without understanding objective restrictions holding performance back.

That are not the points where i was refering to. You can see in general if someone is playing really bad and you don't have to have these classes leveled to see it, your point with the RDM is obviously something where class knowledge strikes but there are enough people who have certain jobs on 70 and still know nothing about them.

Point is that you can see a lot in terms of performance of a player even if you don't have that class on level X. It is a fact that there are a lot of mentors who can't play any of their classes and don't know anything about any mechanic or/and are not able to play these mechanics right and these mentors should not be allowed to mentor newbees and also the behaviour of some mentors is more than just questionable especially if they show a rude behaviour to new players.

I was a mentor for one day, read the NN and left. I went back to explain stuff to new players when i encounter them in dungeons and if they need help. I don't need a crown or reward for that.

[ManuelBravo]

So a player is not qualified to see if someone plays bad just because he didn't level the classes, very interesting. A tank can see if a healer or dps is bad very easy btw. Not to mention that you don't have to level different roles to see if someone fails doing mechanics or if they have bad behavior.

But its cool if you want to defend mentors that way. Good luck defending them with that reason when i or several others confirm what the OP wrote.

Mentoring in term of roles and classes is one thing, Mechanics that are needed is another. You forget one key thing, everyone pays a subscription and are allowed to play how they choose to. If it clashes, majority rules and just boot. Apparently common sense is dead with some players and even now most will ignore mechanics do to the difficulty being a joke. Now if the party wipes a person with common sense will speak out and people normally follow suit and do mechanics. Most of the time its competent mentors that do that. Now then are there troll mentors? Of course their are just like there are trolling sprouts and weeds. So what is the solution? You vote kick, and black list to prevent the system from pairing you with them. I am not against reporting poor mentors that give people who actually take the mentoring program seriously a bad name. All I'm saying is what most people consider to be a competent player and what most would consider experienced vs a player who thinks they know how to play.

[Ilan]

Mentoring in term of roles and classes is one thing, Mechanics that are needed is another. You forget one key thing, everyone pays a subscription and are allowed to play how they choose to. If it clashes, majority rules and just boot. Apparently common sense is dead with some players and even now most will ignore mechanics do to the difficulty being a joke. Now if the party wipes a person with common sense will speak out and people normally follow suit and do mechanics. Most of the time its competent mentors that do that. Now then are there troll mentors? Of course their are just like there are trolling sprouts and weeds. So what is the solution? You vote kick, and black list to prevent the system from pairing you with them. I am not against reporting poor mentors that give people who actually take the mentoring program seriously a bad name. All I'm saying is what most people consider to be a competent player and what most would consider experienced vs a player who thinks they know how to play.

That is the whole point of this thread. The competent mentors are rare and the mentors who can't even play one class properly are not rare. Most people became a mentor for the crown and the mount and not because they want to help other players. But we can discuss that for 10k+ pages and nothing will change. We need a better system where not everyone can become a mentor without a clue and a ranking system for mentors overall so that the mentors who are useless get their crown revoked.

[ManuelBravo]

That are not the points where i was refering to. You can see in general if someone is playing really bad and you don't have to have these classes leveled to see it, your point with the RDM is obviously something where class knowledge strikes but there are enough people who have certain jobs on 70 and still know nothing about them.

Point is that you can see a lot in terms of performance of a player even if you don't have that class on level X. It is a fact that there are a lot of mentors who can't play any of their classes and don't know anything about any mechanic or/and are not able to play these mechanics right and these mentors should not be allowed to mentor newbees and also the behaviour of some mentors is more than just questionable especially if they show a rude behaviour to new players.

I was a mentor for one day, read the NN and left. I went back to explain stuff to new players when i encounter them in dungeons and if they need help. I don't need a crown or reward for that.

You do realize that people get rusty after a while of not playing a specific role right? After a few runs it comes back so chill. Now why do most people even do the mentoring program anyways? Some of us do it to help and the rewards are nice, most are just there for the extra xp do to sprouts/weeds/first timers. So yes there are trolls, and not everyone is at your level. I'm glad you help new commoners but really chill. Report what you consider is trolling and waste precious minutes of your life doing the paperwork rather than just black listing. Here is a tip, take it from a former GM in the field, have a group who feels the same report around the same time. GM's will take you more serious that way and quote what part of the terms of agreement are being violated. If your just not happy how people play, well hello welcome to online gaming.

[Ilan]

You do realize that people get rusty after a while of not playing a specific role right? After a few runs it comes back so chill. Now why do most people even do the mentoring program anyways? Some of us do it to help and the rewards are nice, most are just there for the extra xp do to sprouts/weeds/first timers. So yes there are trolls, and not everyone is at your level. I'm glad you help new commoners but really chill. Report what you consider is trolling and waste precious minutes of your life doing the paperwork rather than just black listing. Here is a tip, take it from a former GM in the field, have a group who feels the same report around the same time. GM's will take you more serious that way and quote what part of the terms of agreement are being violated. If your just not happy how people play, well hello welcome to online gaming.

I don't care if people don't play good but yeah you are right. Why should i bother if new players don't learn how to do things right from players in a system what is supposed to help them.