Built-in Parsers

[akaneakki]

The burden of proof lies with the claimant/accuser. You and the anti-parser side of this 'debate' claim that parsers breed toxicity. You've made a claim, now you have to prove it.

I claimed how he/she is and also have it on my signature as proof as well. I wait for them as well.

[Aster_E]

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The fact that you're still only seeing the black and white in what I'm saying tells me there is no hope for this discussion. It's not my debate skills that are lacking here, though kudos on your borderline ad hominem. You, and you alone, are picking extremes out of my words that simply aren't there. I don't feel like repeating myself for the umpteenth time in this topic alone since my very clear statement still didn't make it through to you, so I'm going to go continue playing the game in the way I enjoy.

If you want to keep arguing, though, you can go right ahead since all it will do at this point is make you seem confrontational. Have fun.

[HyoMinPark]

The fact that you're still only seeing the black and white in what I'm saying tells me there is no hope for this discussion. It's not my debate skills that are lacking here, though kudos on your borderline ad hominem. You, and you alone, are picking extremes out of my words that simply aren't there. I don't feel like repeating myself for the umpteenth time in this topic alone since my very clear statement still didn't make it through to you, so I'm going to go continue playing the game in the way I enjoy.

If you want to keep arguing, though, you can go right ahead since all it will do at this point is make you seem confrontational. Have fun.

Just the fact that you think I’m personally attacking you when I point out the flaws in your arguments proves there’s no hope for a reasonable discussion between the two of us. Have a wonderful evening.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The fact that you're still only seeing the black and white in what I'm saying tells me there is no hope for this discussion. It's not my debate skills that are lacking here, though kudos on your borderline ad hominem. You, and you alone, are picking extremes out of my words that simply aren't there. I don't feel like repeating myself for the umpteenth time in this topic alone since my very clear statement still didn't make it through to you, so I'm going to go continue playing the game in the way I enjoy.

If you want to keep arguing, though, you can go right ahead since all it will do at this point is make you seem confrontational. Have fun.

You said:

"No, of course one thing such as an in-game parser is not enough on its own, even as it gives elitists a means to say "This is in the game now, so you better learn to use it!" Can you say in utmost honesty that no such thing will happen?"

This statement posits the notion parses should remain unseen simply due to the off chance they may be abused. If that is to be your stance, you have to equally be against the Vote Kick/Abandon system as it can and is abused. Any argument otherwise would be hypocritical unless you agree tools do not directly correlate towards toxic behavior; i.e someone parsing has no direct bearing on whether they will treat others poorly. Of course, by doing so, your original argument loses all validity. So...

That is but a single example you appear to have missed. Perhaps you shouldn't be throwing around words like hand-wave and ad hominem when you're very much guilty of both.

[JCharms]

After reading through this thread,(I'm bored) I am quite amused.
The way it has played out, with all the sniping and passive aggressive posts, this thread is like a massive beacon that solidifies the studios stance on adding such a feature... Funny stuff.

[Miste]

If you want to keep arguing, though, you can go right ahead since all it will do at this point is make you seem confrontational. Have fun.

Sorry, but... Hyomin did not personally attack you she simply explained her disagreement with what you have posted and explained the holes in the arguments you have chosen to use.

I mean...who calls someone else confrontational for having a debate on a forum anyway? She can reply if she wants to it doesn't mean she is "confrontational". If you don't want your arguments countered or opinions held up against someone elses then you really shouldn't post in a public forum in the first place.

[Silica-chan]

After reading through this thread,(I'm bored) I am quite amused.
The way it has played out, with all the sniping and passive aggressive posts, this thread is like a massive beacon that solidifies the studios stance on adding such a feature... Funny stuff.

Nothing new this happened alot of times over the years. I can't wait until they ask Yoshi P about this lol. The last time he was asked about a personal damage meter he almost left the room haha.

[MoroMurasaki]

Nothing new this happened alot of times over the years. I can't wait until they ask Yoshi P about this lol. The last time he was asked about a personal damage meter he almost left the room haha.

Why does this matter?

Homestly, this idea that Yoshi-P is so against parsers that they will never happen is so outdated. How about the examples that have already been presented in the thread about housing reclamation or the clear seperation of personal and fc housing? The only answer is the obvious one - sometimes he changes his mind. Stop clinging to this, it's pathetic.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

After reading through this thread,(I'm bored) I am quite amused.
The way it has played out, with all the sniping and passive aggressive posts, this thread is like a massive beacon that solidifies the studios stance on adding such a feature... Funny stuff.

Ironically, those posts have been largely coming from people who neither raid nor use parses. Which... actually defeats the entire argument opposing them, if you think about it.

[LaylaTsarra]

Nothing new this happened alot of times over the years. I can't wait until they ask Yoshi P about this lol. The last time he was asked about a personal damage meter he almost left the room haha.

No didn't leave the room but clearly showed they aren't coming.

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