Dev Team, show me you care about your players because I just don't see it (long read)

[lamerider]

hmm imo i wonder why they didn't decide to wipe all char.
yea i know if they did, none going to pay until 2.0 is on..
well we should be thankful and glad for our char didn't get wiped.
they are just rebuilding entire game , just like releasing new game.
i know how you feeling about your Conjurer , but they wants to be changed , for good.
so just rebuild your build , style , and entertain it?
if something is lost , (then )create it again?
lets see they are trying to make something good for us at least.
well just imo

[Seirra_Lanzce]

There only will wipe if they encounter a serious problem where it can't be ported to 2.0, but it was already announce that there will be no wipe and character data is ensured to be transfer over.

[Nuru]

{That's too bad}, next time be more careful what you vote.

For now stop whining.

Actually, doesn't really matter what he voted for or against, the decision usually falls under what the majority votes for. end of story.

Although it didnt entail what was to change and what was not going to change, the decision alone allowed for open changes. Almost all of the changes that are happening are results of player feedback though, so you can't blame the dev team for that.

[Neptune]

I think your missing the point that this is SE's game not yours and that they will do what ever it is they want to do with this game simple as that.

It's not about whose game it is it's about customer service.

That loyalty mode post wasn't a joke???

The underlying idea was that hardcore elitist players wanted to lock the game up to their niche without any mass appeal.

Specifically thinking of how I held 3 skelly on CON for the last phase of Batraal, by abusing sentinel and deflection/aegis boonII

So it's abuse? Seemed to me like you were legitimately using the tools you were provided with. What good are preconceptions about the survivability of a mage class?

Neptune, I don't think it's fair to say that Yoshi-P doesn't care. I think he cares very much, and has tried to show an ear for his players. But he is one man, and cannot possibly think of everything.

I don't know if he cares or not. Fact is, I have slighted people in the past unintentionally. That's what THIS thread is about.. here's a chance to show you care.

How about you figure out a productive solution?

You want to know why? Because it's not my problem. I've offered solutions to the dev team to fix their problem.

I mean especially with the mage issue, no matter what choice they made there would be a great deal of players unhappy with how things turned out. They really couldn't win with that decision.

I disagree. True problem solvers who care about customer service can find themselves out of any sticky situation. It's a matter of caring.

My issue is that every time they make a change that effect the OP he makes a new threads trying to explain how he was personally effected by the change, and how he should be compensated. He had a thread detailing how anyone who leveled conjurer to be a nuker should now be given a buff of THM to 50 so they can play BLM. Now he is claiming some warped chaim of logic to justify why he should have a his gladiator class buffed to 50 because of sentinal changes.

Its not enough that you have been playing free for a year, but now there are a few that want classes buffed to 50 for no effort as well.

With that mentality, everyone who leveled an archer because of its high damage output should get there lancer class buffed to 50 for nothing. As well as all those who leveled a gladiator should get marauder buffed to 50 for free as well.

Since we are on the subject, I leveled goldsmith. Goldsmith recieved a hosing compared to the other DoH in the last update. All my items I make are deemed dated. By the OPs logic, I should be allowed to choose another DoH class and get it freely buffed to 50 as well.

I can see your logic. If I didn't know anything else but your logic I would agree with you. If every time someone felt slighted they were given something for free there would be so many perks flying around you'd think there was a tornado in the room. I don't agree with that though, just like you. Unlike you, I can make a distinction between the examples and analogies you used.

I'd say wait until they release info on the class reforms in detail with part 2. What makes you so sure that CON/THM won't gain actions/traits that make use of the shield in a more magey way?

It doesn't matter what they new details there are because this thread is about customer service. If you cared you wouldn't do what has been done.

The thead is silly, because as always Neptune is complaining about something we know nothing about. Complaining/discussing over speculation is a pastime at best, and should never be taken seriously.

I agree but you're mistaken. The points in my OP are facts, not future events.

[alexi14]

I leveled Shield to 50 as well. Oh wait, actually it leveled itself while I was leveling Conj and GLA.

[Bearforce]

I agree but you're mistaken. The points in my OP are facts, not future events.

how is it facts when they are speculation at best and you didnt tried them?

[KyrsIsley]

Hi. I'm Neptune. I've been on these boards since they first opened and they were filled with pleas about the game and suggestions to make it better. I've made a series of threads about how this game should be designed with the 97% of players in mind who quit after the first few weeks.

Your biggest mistake is to assume that your opinion equals the majority.

I know plenty of people who started out at launch as CNJ because they wanted to heal, and later on had to switch to THM, because THM heals were superior pre-1.18, then had to switch back to CNJ post 1.18.

I agree with you that the Devs did not make it clear from the beginning regarding what playstyle they want for CNJ or THM, and all the constant changing is making players running in circles. But at least the game allows you to be multiple classes on the same character instead of asking you to start over the game from scratch with a new one.

Lastly, if you want to be a half way decent mage of any kind, you will want both CNJ and THM at 50 anyways, since these are the only two mage classes available right now.

[BishopSaxton]

I am off to shoot myself now after reading parts of this thread...

[Neptune]

how is it facts when they are speculation at best and you didnt tried them?

What didn't I try?

Your biggest mistake is to assume that your opinion equals the majority.

Sweet of you to suggest that, but I don't make that claim. I'm really starting to think in 2011 you can't expect anyone to read a paragraph with 100% comprehension unless they have a college degree.

Anyway, I hope the dev team takes into consideration what I've said because whether people post or not many people will feel like the dev team is not doing good customer service. This is a free trial period as well, if we can't expect service now why would we pay for a subscription?

Last time I checked I was just a gamer and not a paid member of the dev team but if you need to know what to do it's all about being fair and it couldn't hurt to start with being fair to the people that have been the most loyal to you. You can delete my character if it helps make your game a better game but all I ask is that you make it right.

[NadienKirisame]

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I was almost the same but then I remembered its Neptune... so it fits...