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  1. #51
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    Quit your crying, I'm a CNJ too and you don't see me whining like a school girl who just got dumped.

    As has been said in numerous numerous threads, the dev team has changed we can't expect the same idea's that the orginally team had to stick with the game, personally I hate the armory system always have, anything they do to make it less mish mashy is good in my book.

    Most the time when I'm playing a CNJ I'm using a staff, shield is handy when you are soloing but stoneskin is much better.

    Lets not forget that the majority of the people who answered the players poll said they would be happy with drastic changes, well guess what .. we got what we asked for.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 11-15-2011 at 10:57 PM.

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    If you're afraid you're gonna lose 'progress' in this game - don't play it until its final version.
    You're playing in a phase of major updates/changes, deal with it and stop crying or stop playing.

    Asking to be compensated for playing a game is the most ridiculous load a crap I've ever heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    Would you welcome changes to FINAL FANTASY XIV that would drastically alter the rules already set in Eorzea?

    OP is nothing but QQ.


    Game had to be remade almost from scratch, be thankful they let us keep our chars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    OP is nothing but QQ.


    Game had to be remade almost from scratch, be thankful they let us keep our chars.
    People that are crying and complaining about it now... may actually like it when 2.0 "ACTUALLY" comes out ya know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    Would you welcome changes to FINAL FANTASY XIV that would drastically alter the rules already set in Eorzea?

    You beat me to it. People are complaining about big changes but almost everyone said yes to drastic changes. Changes are for the best, learn to adapt.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihana View Post
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    Really nice post Mihana. I often feel the same way about the changes, but I tell myself that I knew it was going to be under construction when I started, and therefore anything could change. I still will voice my feelings if there is a change I don't care for though.

    I have felt like the game has been migrating to be more "wow-like", but there is still a significant enough difference, along with other features coming up, to keep me very interested. In the end, although it won't be the original FFXIV, it still will be unique to itself, I think. We'll see when we get there.

    In the case of the shield, for anyone who uses it on another class besides gladiator, I definitely understand why they'd be upset. But though I can understand that, Neptune, I don't think it's fair to say that Yoshi-P doesn't care. I think he cares very much, and has tried to show an ear for his players. But he is one man, and cannot possibly think of everything. Which is the exact point of the forums. Anyone who doesn't like a change, should voice it, but perhaps they should count to ten before doing so, no?
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    Last edited by Chezen; 11-15-2011 at 11:33 PM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  7. #57
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    So basically:

    Mad because Conj -> Whm and Sentinel being wiped out.

    Seriously? Your only valid argument is the conjurer one and even then, the hints have been pretty obvious about this shift. How about you figure out a productive solution? Something like, I dunno, leveling Thaum so you can play Black Mage when it comes out. Sounds like it would actually fix your problem to me.

    Being mad about Sentinel is pretty hilarious though. Really? Hard work? Nope, you just equipped a shield and got free SP/XP. Your argument would ONLY be valid if you leveled it 1-50 immediately at launch when you actually had to use shield actions to gain Sentinel ranks. Even then it's kind of a flimsy argument because the game went under new management and those things were changed.

    The game is still in a state of great and drastic change, nothing (aside from our character data) is guaranteed at this point.
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  8. #58
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    The changes that are coming are proof that they are listening to the playerbase. Most if not all of these changes are what the majority of players wanted. You =/= the majority. They can't please everyone, and I guarantee that if they didn't make these changes, someone else would be complaining about it. Really, you just have to deal or gtfo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    The changes that are coming are proof that they are listening to the playerbase. Most if not all of these changes are what the majority of players wanted. You =/= the majority. They can't please everyone, and I guarantee that if they didn't make these changes, someone else would be complaining about it. Really, you just have to deal or gtfo.
    Essentially. I mean especially with the mage issue, no matter what choice they made there would be a great deal of players unhappy with how things turned out. They really couldn't win with that decision. At least they made a decision and gave us that information more than a patch in advance. Hopefully people will now level the class for the job they want and be ready for 1.21 (or whenever jobs come out). That's really the best they could do in this situation. Make a decision and give the players the info ahead of time so they can pursue a productive solution.
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    Veto Bahamut
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    i don't understand. people are still confused about THM getting BLM and CNJ getting WHM? people didn't see this coming? people couldn't connect the dots when CNJ gets stuff like rebirth, raise 2, curaga, paralyna, silena, etc... and thm gets stuff like drain, siphon mp, shadowsear, poison, and *a noted lack of rebirth, raise 2, and aoe heals*?

    "but but amagad elemental magic!"

    you willingly chose to focus in on one thing which ran in the face of a mountain of contradictory evidence, and now you're upset when that one thing didn't hold any weight vs. all the other obvious clues. congratulations, i guess. amazing.

    as if it's even difficult to level *that other job which shan't be named (and/or can't be pronounced)* right now. as if you wouldn't gain some really sexy and useful skills to cross-class to make you a better whatever-the-hell-you-want-to-be.

    (as far as shield getting the axe as a 'class' because you leveled it for 'useful skills'- shouldn't you be spending more energy complaining about how those skills were rendered largely useless anyway with the changes to blocking? which had nothing at all to do with any of your rant? yes, i see.)

    what in the world is even going on. which planet do i live on? are there really this many threads with this many posts of people upset about this topic? is this real life?

    and the fact that square radically changes and redesigns the game (and in the future- remakes entirely) upon player/community outcry, doing what 85% of them wanted to the best of their ability in an unfinished game that is still in flux and will be for some time... to prove they care about their players/community...

    ... is now somehow evidence of directly the opposite to you and those who share your opinion? square does something the vast majority of their players want, and because *you* don't want it- it proves they don't care about 'the players'? which players, exactly? you seem to be implying all of them as a whole- which is outright fallacious.

    i get it, you're upset. and i don't mean to take it out on you, if that's what it seems like. but you're projecting, and i'm tired of seeing these topics. you can't please everyone all the time, and square is doing their best to please most people most of the time. for some reason (mostly your own fault), you aren't one of the people that are being pleased right now. and that sucks.

    but right now the squeakiest wheel is also the minority, and the more attention given to the deluge of these topics (which are going nowhere for aforementioned reasons & others)- the less attention given to things that are still in desperate need of a look-over. some of which are outright broken right now.

    these forums are for expressing opinion and giving constructive feedback. and that's fine. but this many threads about this particular topic? it's getting asinine, and can only be counterproductive.
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