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  1. #121
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    If people say, well, play another DPS job, that's fine, but if people have to stop playing a job they used to enjoy to play something else, which they might not enjoy as much, then that clearly shows that there is a problem with Monk.
    I think Square knew this was going to be the end result. I mean just watch the Stormblood trailer. Warrior of Light monk sees his new skills and the mess that the expansion made of his job, and switches to Samurai before he even gets off the boat in Kugane because he doesn't have to get new gear.

    But joking aside, you're right. I mained monk in Heavensward after falling in love with the job leveling it up to get Mantra (I had previously been maining ninja) but with this expansion, I feel like I've had to shelf a job I loved because playing it is such a mess.
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  2. #122
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    Sora_Oathkeeper's Avatar
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    Sora Oathkeeper
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Bumped. I browsed the JP monk forums and they are basically echoing this forum. Stances are too short, GL3 too short compared to botd. PB is too long for what it is. Brotherhood is rng and buff should affect monk, recast on TFC is annoying when you do get good rng. TK sees minimal use. Too many GL maintenance skills (form shift, TK if you will lose it, RoE). Tackle mastery sucks and sees no real use. Deep meditation is useful but still dislike the rng and Slowdown from RoF is against Monk's identity. Hopefully devs will listen to the jp forums
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  3. #123
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    Tigerlilley's Avatar
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    Tiger Lilia
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    Behemoth
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    Monk Lv 90
    I don't think they're listening to any monk atm. It seems like all resources are going into Eureka.
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  4. #124
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    SpeckledBurd's Avatar
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlilley View Post
    I don't think they're listening to any monk atm. It seems like all resources are going into Eureka.
    I'm sure they're hearing our complaints, they're just dismissing them the same way they dismissed Bards' complaints about Wanderer's in Heavensward.
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  5. #125
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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    Lili Reina
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    Faerie
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    i havent seen MNK in such a long time now. both in raid and leveling
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  6. #126
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    Rebellius555's Avatar
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    Kogami Shinya
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i havent seen MNK in such a long time now. both in raid and leveling
    Suprisingly I see a lot of them leveling in POTD on my server, but none in raids. Recently I did a few Rabanastre runs in a row and was the only monk there and to be fair... I'm not surprised. When I returned to the game couple weeks back I found all the hardcore and devoted monks I knew playing different classes.

    The thing I hate the most about monk at the moment is the whole chakra/stance mechanic. Somehow it wasn't as annoying back in Heavensward as it is now. Every time tanks pull without the countdown (and 90% of them does) I'm just flipping out. Being loyal Monk from the beginning I'm seriously considering switching to SAM.
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    Last edited by Rebellius555; 11-03-2017 at 10:41 AM.

  7. #127
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    Blanchimont's Avatar
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    Viese Blanchimont
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    I pretty much abandoned Monk the moment 4.05 rolled around. I still kept my Monk geared hoping that 4.1 would do something for it, but it didn't materialize in any meaningful way. Now, my Monk gear is just sitting there and I've leveled most other combat classes to 70 in an attempt to find another class to play. Samurai is a pretty good close second.
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  8. #128
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    I'm sure they're hearing our complaints, they're just dismissing them the same way they dismissed Bards' complaints about Wanderer's in Heavensward.
    At least the original Wanderer's got a .01 patch. You know, back when it was only usable for your first three shots of a fight, and had a 3-second cast time...

    But none of our issues are actually fatal enough to make us non-viable, insofar as any particular ability on which we'd be dependent (we could take RoE, FoW, FoE, OIP, etc., off our hotbars and lose virtually nothing) or as a whole.

    We're the soldier who just keeps marching, even though our guts are scrambled or missing. Sure, some of that zombie-ness is visible to outsiders, but our performance is still close enough that we can be brushed off indefinitely.
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  9. #129
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rebellius555 View Post
    The thing I hate the most about monk at the moment is the whole chakra/stance mechanic. Somehow it wasn't as annoying back in Heavensward as it is now. Every time tanks pull without the countdown (and 90% of them does) I'm just flipping out. Being loyal Monk from the beginning I'm seriously considering switching to SAM.
    Reason it's more annoying is because in HW, Chakra was just a down time mechanic that we used for a bit of extra burst when we were able to get back into the thick of things. Now, it's a crutch for our DPS, making up about 15-20% of it and locked behind multiple layers of RNG, coupled with a strict group party composition to help ease some of the RNG involved but never truly eliminating it either.

    It's annoying.
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  10. #130
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Warrior of Light monk sees his new skills and the mess that the expansion made of his job, and switches to Samurai before he even gets off the boat in Kugane because he doesn't have to get new gear.
    I joked about the expansion rickrolling Monks when they revealed the "true" trailer and Yoshida busted out with that SAM outfit. I knew right then and there Monk was an afterthought.

    It's a shame though, Monk complaints just aren't being taken seriously because their numbers are fine and it's viable. It's a damn shame when one of your favorite jobs is ruined and the devs don't give the slightest damn about the situation.

    I would go to another DPS in this case, but I just don't like any of the others. I don't want to be a support DPS like DRG and NIN. SAM is too slow for me, I don't like casters, and ranged physical isn't my thing. I like being up close and personal and having an active rotation.

    Sigh,guess I'll stick with healing for now... Until SE fixes nothing again for 5.0.
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    Last edited by Exiled_Tonberry; 11-03-2017 at 04:11 PM.

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