Ifirit, how it could have been done better.

[NoctisUmbra]

If the Ifrit fight itself isn't difficult (which it's not) then the solution isn't to make the drops super rare, it's to make the drops not as good. I don't understand how you can possibly justify getting Dark Matter 50 times in a row unless you just like doing mindless shit. Duplicates are NOT the only flaw.

So, you're solution to low drop rate son epic gear is to increase the drop rates and make the gear weaker?

So we should just have much more of slightly above average gear instead of a handful of very strong gear?

What did you say about shitty design again?..

Let's artificially extend content life by filling players' pockets with Dark Matter because we put a 15 minute lockout on success instead of something more fitting.

It's not a perfect system. Don't pretend what you're suggesting is any better.

[Brannigan]

So, you're solution to low drop rate son epic gear is to increase the drop rates and make the gear weaker?

So we should just have much more of slightly above average gear instead of a handful of very strong gear?

What did you say about shitty design again?..

Gear can be an upgrade and worth getting without blowing everything else out of the water. This also opens you up for PROGRESSION with future content. The point is that if you've killed Ifrit 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 times then YES you've proven you can beat him and you should be done. I just grouped with someone on my server who finally got her last weapon after 350 fights. That. is. retarded.

[RemVye]

Gear can be an upgrade and worth getting without blowing everything else out of the water. This also opens you up for PROGRESSION with future content. The point is that if you've killed Ifrit 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 times then YES you've proven you can beat him and you should be done. I just grouped with someone on my server who finally got her last weapon after 350 fights. That. is. retarded.

And some people spent months / years camping NM's and didn't get anything.. what's your point?

[Brannigan]

And some people spent months / years camping NM's and didn't get anything.. what's your point?

My point is that is fucking retarded.

You want this to be WoW where you are guaranteed a drop every run? Cause that's fun... show up get gear log on next patch...

what's your suggestion mr. pro game designer

WoW, EQ, etc. Yeah. Common and rare drops that are both useful. Dark Matter/nothing consolation prize is dumb as hell.

[RemVye]

My point is that is fucking retarded.


WoW, EQ, etc. Yeah. Common and rare drops that are both useful. Dark Matter/nothing consolation prize is dumb as hell.

Yes, def should have a game where everyone gets something in a run and everything is running around in the same gear set with no effort! Show up get loot! (Fun)!

If that's how you feel... this is not the game for you.


For the 12th time... the only flaw in the Ifrit fight is that you are able to get duplicates of items you already own.


Solution is to lower the drop rate and allow for trading of weapons or prevent users from getting weapons they don't have yet. Yoshi N' Crew talked about giving a gauranteed drop if you didn't receive one after X kills... I hope it's 25+ to be honest. Loot shouldn't be given away like candy on Halloween.

[Brannigan]

For the 12th time... the only flaw in the Ifrit fight is that you are able to get duplicates of items you already own.

For the 12th time you are wrong. : )

p.s. "This game is not for you" lol good one. I'm sure that'll go over well while re-launching this game for 2.0

[RemVye]

For the 12th time you are wrong. : )

p.s. "This game is not for you" lol good one. I'm sure that'll go over well while re-launching this game for 2.0

If you expect to show up once and get loot, you're a fool Harry Potter... you will lose

[Brannigan]

If you expect to show up once and get loot, you're a fool Harry Potter... you will lose

And if you really, truly think that the only problem with this loot system is duplicates then I hope for your sake you don't get unlucky on moogle drops.

[NoctisUmbra]

And if you really, truly think that the only problem with this loot system is duplicates then I hope for your sake you don't get unlucky on moogle drops.

It's not the only problem with the loot system. It is the main problem with the drop rates seeming much lower than they actually are. Loot system is going to be changed for a sort of Need/Greed system. Yoshi said as much.

[RemVye]

And if you really, truly think that the only problem with this loot system is duplicates then I hope for your sake you don't get unlucky on moogle drops.

I'll take my time and enjoy the fight.

I already conveyed solutions, some of which Yoshi maybe endorsing... what's your problem? You want auto-loot; then you should play a game that has that.