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  1. #21
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    konpachizaraki's Avatar
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    Grandfall Fraxinus
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 70
    while we're at it why not make fight or flight 30% physical damage increase in 30 seconds?
    i mean that's what FoF was supposed to be before SE nerfed it to 25% in 25 seconds for some reason when 4.0 is officially out
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  2. #22
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by konpachizaraki View Post
    while we're at it why not make fight or flight 30% physical damage increase in 30 seconds?
    i mean that's what FoF was supposed to be before SE nerfed it to 25% in 25 seconds for some reason when 4.0 is officially out
    25 seconds is better because it gives more uptime and makes PLD feel better to play, it might be a nerf (I don't know the maths) but from a playstyle perspective I have to be more aware of my buffs and need to balance requiescat and FoF usage, which is a lot of fun and a lot more gameplay than PLD had ever had.
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  3. #23
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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Okay so I'll try to help here... Shield Swipe should be used as much as possible. It's actually free damage and enmity since it is not on the GCD. Use Sheltron to proc shield swipe. You should be able to get at most 4 a min, which is a whopping 600 potency. Shield Oath is trash. Horrible gauge generation and almost entirely useless. Swap out of that ASAP so you can build faster and proc shield swipe more using Sheltron.

    DO NOT USE FLASH IN requiscat. Do not use flash period on single target. Ever. Use Halone combo 1 or 2 times depending on how geared you are & how much your party controls aggro then never again.

    Every minute use Fight or flight before goring, do two Royal combos then end on Goring and start Requiscat combo.
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    Last edited by RLofOBFL; 11-01-2017 at 12:38 AM.

  4. #24
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    Zierk's Avatar
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    Zierk Shinhan
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    Okay so I'll try to help here... Shield Swipe should be used as much as possible. It's actually free damage and enmity since it is not on the GCD. Use Sheltron to proc shield swipe. You should be able to get at most 4 a min, which is a whopping 600 potency. Shield Oath is trash. Horrible gauge generation and almost entirely useless. Swap out of that ASAP so you can build faster and proc shield swipe more using Sheltron.

    DO NOT USE FLASH IN requiscat. Do not use flash period on single target. Ever. Use Halone combo 1 or 2 times depending on how geared you are & how much your party controls aggro then never again.

    Every minute use Fight or flight before goring, do two Royal combos then end on Goring and start Requiscat combo.
    @OP, pretty much this. Please take this advice and enjoy what you have. PLD was way worse in HW and is in a really good spot in SB.
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  5. #25
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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I will agree somewhat with the OP’s sentiment in that I think they could find ways to make shield swipe more interesting and useful. As is, it’s just something you hit when it lights up and it serves absolutely no purpose when you’re off tanking unless you block an aoe or decide to sheltron an aoe for some reason.
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  6. #26
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Can’t edit on mobile, but a few ideas I had was refreshing the cooldown and lighting it up whenever someone you intervene/cover takes damage.

    Also, removing its cooldown when bulwark is up.
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  7. #27
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    The only changes i’d like to see to PLD atm are clemency giving gauge in shield oath the same way Holy Spirit does, I feel this makes sense considering you’re more likely to be on the defensive and healing yourself in shield oath than nuking with Holy spirit.

    And requiscat duration being extended by a second to account for server lag, as an EU player on an NA server that tight timer drives me nuts.

    I’d also like to see a change to the way blocking works so it compliments casting rather than opposing it but that’s more a change to game mechanics than PLD.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 11-03-2017 at 09:55 PM.
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    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  8. #28
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I mean, we can't deny it's a very boring ability, but at least it's off the GCD now. Remember when it wasn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    In 3.x, Cover was useless and everyone wanted a gap closer. In 4.x, gap closers are useless and everyone wants Cover.

  9. #29
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    Jukebox12's Avatar
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    25 seconds is better because it gives more uptime and makes PLD feel better to play, it might be a nerf (I don't know the maths) but from a playstyle perspective I have to be more aware of my buffs and need to balance requiescat and FoF usage, which is a lot of fun and a lot more gameplay than PLD had ever had.
    It's a nerf you would've to buff holy spirit or the other thing
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  10. #30
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    Okay so I'll try to help here... Shield Swipe should be used as much as possible. It's actually free damage and enmity since it is not on the GCD. Use Sheltron to proc shield swipe. You should be able to get at most 4 a min, which is a whopping 600 potency. Shield Oath is trash. Horrible gauge generation and almost entirely useless. Swap out of that ASAP so you can build faster and proc shield swipe more using Sheltron.

    DO NOT USE FLASH IN requiscat. Do not use flash period on single target. Ever. Use Halone combo 1 or 2 times depending on how geared you are & how much your party controls aggro then never again.

    Every minute use Fight or flight before goring, do two Royal combos then end on Goring and start Requiscat combo.
    Its worst to use 2 RoH combo
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