PLD minor annoyances

[Sqwall]

Gripes:
1. Shield Swipe gives NOOO benefit to the class. I'm very close to taking it off my hotbar. I feel like when something procs that it should offer something. My thoughts; give a +5% block chance when you shield swipe the length of the buff is 10 seconds. Shield swipe cool down is 20 seconds.

Reason I say that is shield oath generation is more burst, which you can fill VERY fast with Bulwark, Passage of Arms. Nothing helps you generate oath faster unless you blow a large cooldown ability. Sheltron is counter productive since it's -50 for +5 oath. MP gain yes but I feel that is the MAIN use of the ability anyways.

I generally use sheltron after I open with rampart, shield lop, requiscat, flash, Holy Spirit x4-5, (Flash is stronger with req buff) Sheltron x2, Fight or Flight, Goring combo, Circle of scorn, (dots are more with FoF on) Royal combo, Goring combo, Flash, and repeat when MP at 80% or more.

[Felorr]

i dont even

[Ferth]

So...

Shield Swipe: Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
Can only be executed immediately after blocking an attack.
Additional effect: Pacification
Duration: 6s
Additional Effect: Increased Enmity

Just to be clear you some how don't see the usefulness of a free off-gcd 150 potency attack that provides increased enmity every ~15 seconds? Or are you complaining about the pacification? Granted it does nothing in Raid settings, but the move does enough without it...

As for Sheltron, a gauranteed block (19-26% damage mitigation for one hit) and a return of 13.5% total mp... I'm not sure why you seem to think it is counter productive in terms of Oath return, since the only reason we have oath is as a resource to gate the use of sheltron (and intervention), that is literally all it is for.

If you want to be annoyed at pacification having very limited usefulness, I suppose that's your prerogative, but I don't understand your complaint about either of these moves.

[Shinkyo]

Yup, having a hard time understanding the post.
Swipe is pretty much free potency and enmity, and is already good as is.

Then we go into a debatable rotation that’s not related to the topic...

[Awful]

Gripes:

Complains about how Pld has a free threat move and it's Oaths > Pld tank is the best tank in SB > Wants to buff Pld even more

[Sqwall]

I'm simply arguing the relevance of the skill and how it works for the class. I bothers me that all it does is dps and such a moderate cool down. The pacification only works on normal mob's and a select few bosses. Enmity generation for the skill is low compared to others, but that is my opinion.

Don't get me wrong I see it's a simple skill to use, but just seems like unnecessary button filler considering the offerings. Much like Spirits Within, but is actually better since they dropped the silence and added more dps with higher HP.

Ever since 4.0 came out it seems like the classes push for face rolling the keyboard fitting style. It just feels less flowy then AAR. Call me crazy but WoW cataclysm skills, procs, and synergy is what I crave. Probably never happen but it flowed really well. 4.0 just kind of seems all over the place synergy wise.

[WhyAmIHere]

I mean, right now PLD does dominate the SB tank scene, and a lot of this forum is decrying for buffs to DRK, but it's not like your complaints are completely ignorable... somewhat.

As far as how PLD plays: if it's not for you try out WAR or DRK and see if either of those are more up your alley.

[akisya]

(Flash is stronger with req buff)

Oh god....... Someone help this poor fellow.

[Phileas]

There is no set back to using this ability. It is a) free damage b) free enmity and on a non raid boss c) free pacification. There is no need to adjust its effect. Shield swipe is so good.

[NellMoshroca]

I'm sure SE will fix this before they even acknowledge DRK's existence.