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    People are still forgetting that money, and FCs not able to purchase medium/large arent the issue.

    The biggest issue is that Square Enix NEVER MAKES LIKE 100 WARDS TO 200 WARDS EVERY EXPANSION.

    If there were 100 wards in Heavensward and 100 wards in Stormblood, I REALLY doubt that housing flippers overcharging and people would feel this upset about not able to purchase a plot whether it'd be one per account or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
    Leave the smalls with a low maintenance. Mediums and Larges should be FC only, and 500k/1m per month at least.
    I am somewhat reminded of the game The Sims Online when they added rent to houses. It upset a lot of people because every time you took a couple of days off the game you then had to spend hours slowly making and selling gnomes to pay the rent and not getting to enjoy the rest of the game and many people quit because of that.

    My company isn't very big, we're always scraping for more active members since our server pop is small with people constantly disappearing every couple of weeks and many other competing companies are also clawing for more members. Hell we even struggle to find enough people sometimes to build our projects. Adding rent at 500k a month would destroy us and we would have to give up and relinquish our house and all its progress we put into it the past 3 months would've been for nothing.

    However the idea might not be so bad if rent was added on a second house if you owned more than one house per server/account. That would certainly deter players from trying to monopolize entire wards to resell. In the end you don't want to be penalizing the players who just want a little place of their own, but penalize the ones who are taking advantage or being too greedy and not respecting the fact that houses are a limited resource in the game and are not just for them to hoard like collector's dolls.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 10-30-2017 at 01:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
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    I'm quite aware of what the main problem is and that SE lack of smarts to do housing right. Here we are, four years since housing has been released. Every time they release new wards, new housing area, the blood bath beings. Lot of people are left empty handed because of their servers bottle necking/flippers buying up everything just to abuse the system and make a profit off those who are willing to pay that high price. There a lack of faith in SE. Do they care? Who knows. They say 4.2... BIG STUFF.... I'll believe it when I see it and I'm able to relocate from my small house to a large without fighting people or worrying about a server bottle necking and giving me 3x lobby errors only to end up in a 3k+ que. If they only add like 12 more wards... well... that doesn't even fill half of Balmung players.... you and I both know this as we're on Balmung.
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    No RENT. Let's not make a bad thing even worse.
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    Another possible idea is to limit the number of houses to 1 per account and in order to buy additional houses you would have to buy an additional housing permit per new house from the Mogstation. Treat it as a proper limited resource like with retainers. You want the privilege of owning more than one to yourself? you gotta pay extra for it. It gives more money to SE from players who are quite happy in owning more than one house for their own personal use, it doesn't affect players who already own a single plot to themselves, and it discourages purchasing of multiple houses by people who just want to resell them for profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Okay, I hear you and you make some good points... but what if... hear me out... What if we make houses cost a monthly fee on the mog station! You know, something the average player can afford. Like $50.

    Why would you want to reward SE with their failure in housing by giving them even more money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    Another possible idea is to limit the number of houses to 1 per account and in order to buy additional houses you would have to buy an additional housing permit per new house from the Mogstation. Treat it as a proper limited resource like with retainers. You want the privilege of owning more than one to yourself? you gotta pay extra for it. It gives more money to SE from players who are quite happy in owning more than one house for their own personal use, it doesn't affect players who already own a single plot to themselves, and it discourages purchasing of multiple houses by people who just want to resell them for profit.
    They all ready do that. Its called the Account option #2 where you can have up to 8 Characters as opposed to account option #1 where you are only allowed 1 Character.....

    BTW wow Sims online that gave me flash backs lol. i opened so many kennels getting them rare cats n dogs to sell lol
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    Rent will not deter house flippers, it is only going to impact honest players. All the flipper would do is either sell it before rent is due or pay the rent and up their asking price. Meanwhile folks that just own one home suddenly need to divert gil from other projects into keeping their house. Sure I've got plenty of gil in the bank but not everyone does. When I bought my first plot I went bankrupt buying the land, the permit, and the furnishings. I would have lost it in a week if there had been rent. Quite a few players like that i am betting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Rent will not deter house flippers, it is only going to impact honest players. All the flipper would do is either sell it before rent is due or pay the rent and up their asking price. Meanwhile folks that just own one home suddenly need to divert gil from other projects into keeping their house. Sure I've got plenty of gil in the bank but not everyone does. When I bought my first plot I went bankrupt buying the land, the permit, and the furnishings. I would have lost it in a week if there had been rent. Quite a few players like that i am betting.
    I still say the best way to curb flippers is a random resale timer 1 to 7 days after releasing a plot it will randomly be put up for sale.. Fc sellers im not sure how to stop that since its just a handing over the lead thing...

    But they need to add some kinda activy thing to fc's other then the 45 days cause i know 2 fc's on Coeurl right now holding large houses one the main is on faerie one the main is on mathus.. there just holding the plots
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    @Mikki my FC is working on garden plots to make flying chairs for whoever wants one. The airships bring back materia and that’s distributed to the members and we have thavarian onions for any chocobo that needs one. Just letting you know those FCs do exist.
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