How's Ultimate?

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People in this thread have made a few thousand sound like half the games population and it\\'s not. Hardcore raiders that this content was made for is the equivalent of a small high school in a state with a 500k population

No, you just continuously misinterpret the argument. Those "few thousand" are the players who make all the guides and help the community. To casually dismiss the Xenos, Miyuri and Momos who try to help the community improve shows you don't have any grasp of the trickle down effect. If these players start leaving because the game has become too easy, who will replace them? Someone else just as good... who inevitably grows equally bored as time goes on for the same reasons they did? Many of these players already unsubbed before 4.1 even dropped because they lost faith. Some came back due to Ultimate actually living up to its hype. They deserve some slice of the proverbial pie and your crusade against Ultimate is basically telling them all "Too bad. I don't care what you want."

If Ultimate dwindles in interest, at least the devs finally tried something different. It's a huge step above the same tired tomestone, two dungeon, one primal, four increasingly easier raids they've been doing since Heavensward. And once again, this cost very little to produce. You keep making a big deal over minimal resources. Ultimate didn't delay Eureka, it didn't detract from adding more Savage fights and the devs claim it didn't even take away the one dungeon. So stop acting like Ultimate stole content away from casual players. It didn't.

they arent dedicated to the game once the raids dont go the way they want

This is not exclusive to raiders. Many players take breaks or have left because XIV, at times, has lacked content. Hence why I'd agree with you complaining 4.1 didn't add much. It's your incessant whining towards Ultimate I take issue with.