How's Ultimate?

[bswpayton]

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That’s not what I’m claiming at all. You are the one trying to discuss “facts” in a thread that, quite frankly, has absolutely nothing to do with anything that you’ve

even if the clears for v4s is higher then so would all the other ones , thus meaning the drop off is still in the thosands , just because youd like to inflate the clear rate numbers of neo exdeath doesnt mean that the other numbers wouldnt be inflated as well. Im simply sayin that maybe half a million players play this game, less than 50 thosand of those players raid, even fewer of those have completed all the raids, even fewer of those whom cleared neo exdeath sense its so easy according to people like you.

Then even fewer people would clear ulitamte so the question is whats the point then, you keep sayin us and we wanted harder content , alot of people havent even finished the current raids. So who are you talkin about a few thousand people maybe not even 7 thousand people total whom have cleared neo exdeath so we should make a whole encounter for them when we already have raids in the game? I dont think so this is just more content thats gona die just like all the other raids do alex and coil. So the resources put into makin this could have been put elsewhere because the amount of players this instance was made for isnt significant enough for them to have something major as a standalone in a patch package.

[whiskeybravo]

That isn’t what I’m saying; what I’m saying is that it should not be used as some form of absolute because it has been made known on several occasions that not everyone uses it, so one cannot always use it as a definitive resource if they want to claim how valid a piece of content is.

I think it's a valid comparison. It may be true that not everyone uploads their logs, but I think it would be a safe assumption that those who have uploaded their v1-2s logs would also upload their v3-4s logs if they had them.

To be entirely fair to everyone, SE stated back around HW release that they wanted to make a savage final coil. We never got that, but we did get Ultimate finally. So just take it for what it's worth. I mean I still haven't done stuff like POTD or even PVP, there's plenty of content that some people just never get around to doing. Does that really hurt the amount of other content we get?

[Texa]

This is like complaining about there being a highly requested spicy dish on the menu when the everything else at the restaurant is mild or literally a dessert "but the spicy one is too hot for me, it should also be mild!".

[Ameela]

Guys I don't like crafting and gathering, it takes way too long and I don't have the time or patience for it, can SE please make it easier and faster? Because I think it's unfair that the crafting and gathering content isn't to my liking, even if there are more people out there who actually enjoy it.

[bswpayton]

Guys I don't like crafting and gathering, it takes way too long and I don't have the time or patience for it, can SE please make it easier and faster? Because I think it's unfair that the crafting and gathering content isn't to my liking, even if there are more people out there who actually enjoy it.

more people craft than would actually clear ultimate savage but ok , I wish they had a jump potion cant stand crafting, All jokes aside numbers dont lie, numbers wil show in time how little this stuff is cleared and maybe SE will decide on their own that its a waste of resources only time will tell.

[Nerisu]

more people craft than would actually clear ultimate savage but ok , I wish they had a jump potion cant stand crafting, All jokes aside numbers dont lie, numbers wil show in time how little this stuff is cleared and maybe SE will decide on their own that its a waste of resources only time will tell.

But isn't that the point of this content in the first place? It is designed so that only a handful of groups can clear it while it's relevant.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

But isn't that the point of this content in the first place? It is designed so that only a handful of groups can clear it while it's relevant.

Besides... That's actually kinda the point. Of course, there will be... less than a percent, maybe less than 0.1 percent of the playerbase that will have it cleared. But that's what some people want to hear. And, dumb as it sounds, I'm actually happy this content exists, even though I first cleared V3S last week. This is the proof that you're top tier, and you're one of the best. Just the fact that this exists may bring them new players (former hardcore WoW Players, for example) that will just test it, and be like "that sh*t's impossible to do, I must do it 6 hours a week for 3 months before we even get to the final phase". There are some people that have this extraordinary "dumb" attitude, like there are people that have extraordinary "dumb" attitude toward sports or whatever. They want to do what others can't. They want to try hard, get better as a person and as a group, they want to be the best.

That's not misplaced ambition. Those are people that have a dream, and will try to pursue it as hard as they can. And that's beautiful. Is that a productive dream ? Maybe not, but hey, who are you to judge ?

And, Texa, doesn't matter at all, but I absolutely hate Bahamut's weapons xD Still, wouldn't glamour it for anything, just because of what it means.

[bswpayton]

Besides...

Its not really a matter of attitude, or not I think thats a great attitude to have always want to improve always get better. The fact of the matter is when people mention , 4.1 down the line. Oh that was that ultimate fight patch, because thats the only new thing that even came in 4.1 that wasnt gona happen anyway. And for something that under 10k people will even do shouldn't be the highlight of a patch right after an expansion was released.

People are just simply arguing with numbers here the numbers are so small in life majority rules always, so if they where gona bring this out they should of brought out eureka along with it or something that actually most players could take part in instead of makin an instance that maybe a hand full of people would clear. People act like world first players are major rock stars or something like nobody cares its nice but nobody plays the game to watch other people do content.

[Texa]

And, Texa, doesn't matter at all, but I absolutely hate Bahamut's weapons xD

That's okay! I love bright yellow shiny gold and glitter glitter sparkle rainbows. I watch magical girl shows. I think Cure Parfait-

-is cute. My taste is questionable.

Things that are flashy and difficult to obtain are still a big draw in FF XIV even if it's super gaudy for some though. Like the anima lux weapons. Gotta have them "LOOK AT ME!" gears.