Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
I understand how powerful Thin Air is. You can frontload as many heals as you want within its window. But it doesn't give you the power to simply neglect your MP through the entirety of a fight. I find myself, in O4s and Shinryu, running very low on MP quite often, along with my co healer at the time

AST is the weakest in MP recovery, but their low MP cost makes up for it so they end up being just as MP efficient as any other healer.
I know what you mean for Shinryu, but O4S hmmmm honestly I find O4S to be very not MP intensive in general so I've never actually gotten close to running out (this is when people are not dirt napping left and right or making mistakes though). Exdeath is so-so but the fight is short, as for Neo his heavy damage is so sporadic and in short bursts that honestly I haven't had an issue with MP at all...just don't get hit by Emptiness. O3S in my experience is actually quite a bit more MP intensive than O4S.

Shinryu I flip back and forth from AST to WHM and on WHM when it is a smooth run I never get close to running out of MP even a few mistakes or deaths I don't run out. AST though I do start to get low at points even if the run is smooth and especially if I have to raise. That is just my experience though.

I personally think that it is due to Asp. Benefic having a much higher MP cost than WHM Regen and regens are very good to keep on the tanks for that fight since Shinryu's wings constantly pot shot both of them. Asp. Benefic is 1440 MP while WHM Regen is 840. 600 MP difference and those regens are pretty helpful in there.

The MP recovery is mostly balanced between all healers, but AST's lower MP costs and extended Lucid don't make up for Thin Air and Assize. I play both and on AST I have to manage my MP a lot more carefully than WHM. Ewer is not reliable since you can not get one when you need it and AST are supposed to use those to setup damage boosts not for MP so we have to watch MP close to avoid that, but that is how AST is supposed to be so it is fine. WHM should have better MP management than AST anyway in my opinion.

Also have to keep in mind that any healer can run out of MP if they overheal too much due to worrying too much so they overcompensate.


Are you using Thin Air to heal the dragon heads and/or using Benediction to heal one to full for free? Because when I was learning that fight I noticed that those dragon heads are really MP sponges if you use no buffs.