The mentality of a silent newbie healer/tank in trials/alliance raids...

[MoroMurasaki]

things about people not owning smartphones/computers

You have a PS4 and internet, download youtube. It's free, takes up virtually no space and has a guide for every group fight in the game.


I'm not defending the idea that everyone must watch a guide, I'm content to wipe a few times for the sake of someone's blind run, but that does not mean everyone must feel this way. If someone doesn't want to run with a player who refuses knowledge that is 100% available to them then that is their perogative. Don't make an excuse up to try to defend the idea that any player in this game doesn't gave access to a guide.

Yes and no. I wrote a FFXIV blog on elistist/scrub, and that mentality can be toxic from either perspective. I agree that I haven't seen people kicked left and right for being new or making a few mistakes. I also agree that I've seen some really nice and helpful people. But I've also come across a fair share of really rude people, moreso in mid to late 2017 than early 2016. I was actually very impressed when I first got here how pleasant DF was as a new player.

It also matters how well you do your job and what the expectations of other players are. Many want to go as fast as possible to get their roulette done because they are bored and just want the reward. Others see it as a matter of pride or ego. Whatever. Mostly though it seems to be one person in a group that gripes if that comes up. A lot of the pressure likely comes from inside the new or returning or nervous player, from fear of failure, fear of rejection, or fear of letting people down. If you put a few really rude/mean players per week (or sometimes in a day!) on top of that DF will take on an ominous feel. It may also depend on continent and data center in some cases in terms of how people behave or react.

I'm with you for the vast majority here. I think calling someone a scrub is just as offensive as calling them an elitist. What I don't agree with is that we have an elitism problem in FFXIV.

I think the baseline for when someone should be patient and understanding of another player is simply that they are visibly trying and open to cretique and advice.

I have been leveling SAM now that all my healers are 70 and I have encountered several struggling healers along the way including an AST who didn't use cards. I've given advice to all of them that I thought I could help. Most were receptive and open to trying at the very least, many have mentioned never hearing anything about the things I'd told them before we spoke.

If we had an elitism problem in this game do you think an AST in 50+ content could get away with not using cards and never speak to anyone about it? He had healed up to the Vault.

We have 'elitist' players, yes, but they are such a minority they aren't worth the time it took you to write your blog. If people (not saying you) go around calling everyone who expects a healer to apply dots or a SAM to use AoE elitists then when those people actually encounter elitism and want to bring attention to it no one will listen.

I guess this turned into "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" and I didn't mean for it to but I think the lesson applies here. Elitists are bad, almost everyone agrees with that, but not every person who offers advice or gets a bit snarky deserves that brand.

Edit: I did find your blog post very well written and I think you're quite thoughtful, I hope you don't take offence to this, I simply don't agree