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    Omi Senu
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I think people manufacture this toxic enviroment that they see themselves in. If you go around calling everyone elitists and problematic that is going to reflect in your experience. If you go into new content open to cretique and with a desire to succeed with your party you will see that come back to you more often than not.

    I just wish everyone would stop acting like this game is some cesspool of toxic waste - most people don't care that you're new and aside from them the majority will enjoy helping you. Yes, we have a small group of bad apples but they most certainly don't ruin the bunch.
    Yes and no. I wrote a FFXIV blog on elistist/scrub, and that mentality can be toxic from either perspective. I agree that I haven't seen people kicked left and right for being new or making a few mistakes. I also agree that I've seen some really nice and helpful people. But I've also come across a fair share of really rude people, moreso in mid to late 2017 than early 2016. I was actually very impressed when I first got here how pleasant DF was as a new player.

    It also matters how well you do your job and what the expectations of other players are. Many want to go as fast as possible to get their roulette done because they are bored and just want the reward. Others see it as a matter of pride or ego. Whatever. Mostly though it seems to be one person in a group that gripes if that comes up. A lot of the pressure likely comes from inside the new or returning or nervous player, from fear of failure, fear of rejection, or fear of letting people down. If you put a few really rude/mean players per week (or sometimes in a day!) on top of that DF will take on an ominous feel. It may also depend on continent and data center in some cases in terms of how people behave or react.
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    Last edited by tinythinker; 10-26-2017 at 08:06 AM. Reason: edited for length