Revelations from Patch 4.1

[YianKutku]

And I hope that they will go that route with her too (if she has real amnesia). I mean for me there is a point where a character has done enough and should not be free to live their life like nothing happened. Revenge wont bring someone back from death so its fine if people cant take it out on her but I believe that she (and Fordola too) should at least land in prison for that. Because if we stop justice for those two and let them go then they simply could never arrest anyone ever again which would be against any kind of justice system.

Technically Fordola is already in prison, or at least a jail. She voluntarily goes back to her cell after the big battle. The question is whether this is enough, or if she needs to be punished further. And if so, what form that punishment should take, and for what purpose.

It's the usual question of what justice should be: rehabilitative, retributive, preventative, or something else, or some combination thereof, and in what ratio.

Also, Fordola's case is a test of Ala Mhigo's new justice system, rather than the Alliance's. Jurisdiction is given over to the leaders of Ala Mhigo, which currently means Lyse. This was a deliberate decision on the part of Alliance command, for whatever reason, so even if Lyse decides to pardon Fordola entirely, the Alliance can't do more than make diplomatic noises. And given their own dirty laundry, I doubt those noises will be too loud.

It's not like the Alliance's own civilian justice system is at all unified, after all.

I'm not really enthused about Yotsuyu's current situation, mostly because I'm really not sure Yotsuyu is the best character to apply this plotline to. It's a puzzling choice; it's not wholly out of the blue, but I can't help but wonder why her, and why now.

It feels like the writers wanted to tell this particular story, and randomly picked Yotsuyu's name out of a hat for the subject. It has about as much emotional impact as applying it to, say, Magnai.

(... Sadu suddenly getting amnesia might be an interesting look into the Dotharli beliefs, come to think of it.)

[sciencebot]

I'm not really enthused about Yotsuyu's current situation, mostly because I'm really not sure Yotsuyu is the best character to apply this plotline to. It's a puzzling choice; it's not wholly out of the blue, but I can't help but wonder why her, and why now.

I think it's to do with it as a counterpoint to Fordola's story. Fordola is someone who knows very much what she did and why, and her story seems to be about how she and the people around her handle that, and to some extent whether or not she gets a second chance. Yotsuyu doesn't know what she did/why, and sort of is having a second chance as someone who isn't saddled with all that knowledge and history, and I expect that story is probably going to be about how she and the people around her are going to deal with that. I don't think it's a plotline I'd be super interested in on its own, but I think it has merit as kind of a reflection of the other story, if that makes sense.

[Cilia]

It's cute that you guys think I'm fanboying for FFT/FF12. I like both of those games, but if you want to know what a man rally fanboys for, ask him how much mithril/gems he's spent on a specific realm in FFRK.

Over 1200 mithril in FF6 pulls as a day 1 player, and about 75 dollars on FF6 banners to boot. Yet RNGesus saw fit to make Yuna, Y'shtola and Ayame my waifus. You will be mine one day Terra.

Completely off-topic, but... pfft.

I don't play FFRK, but I do play Fire Emblem Heroes. For the upcoming Score Attack event, I threw that much at it trying to get one of the current banner units so I could train her up over the weekend (weekends give double skill points, and I have another unit that doubles it further) and have a nice +40% score bonus. I did get some 5* units, but... not the focus unit I wanted.

So, guess I'll have to make do with her half-brother husband (long story; Judgral is messed up) and a +20% boost, and hope I can summon her with the currency gained from said event or throw another 75$ at it on payday and pray. (At this point I could have gotten one of those Sphero Star Wars droids...) This is very odd, since my luck is usually much better and I don't need to throw money at it (or if I do, get what I want pretty easily). See, this is why I just buy trading card singles instead of gambling on packs...

What'chu know 'bout 'dat mobage life, son?! (/sarcasm)

[Eyvhokan]

What'chu know 'bout 'dat mobage life, son?! (/sarcasm)

Ayra must be a DRK because of all the Salted Earth we saw.

[Grimr]

Shingone Savage can only be defeated by instanced housing. These days other MMO's have instance housing. However i draw the line at WoW's sad attempt at it during WOD. Yoshida please do limit your WoW influence/inspiration to a bare minimum.

[LineageRazor]

I'm definitely interested in what they're doing with Fordola's storyline. The revelation that she's being forced to relive her atrocities from the receiving end... Well, to be honest, that has got to be just about as close as any punishment can come to true justice. In my mind, she's come a good chunk of the way toward redemption already: She's been harshly punished, she feels genuine remorse (or, at least, seems to), and she has proven willing to work to atone for her misdeeds. The trick will be convincing the general populous of Ala Mhigo to give her a chance. They have a lot of very justified anger at her.

The plotline with Tsuyu, as I've mentioned elsewhere, I'm less happy with... but folks have pointed out that it could be seen as a counterpoint to Fordola's situation. One finding redemption by losing the knowledge of the awful things she'd done, and the other gaining redemption through gaining the knowledge of the awful things she'd done. I do hope that Yotsuyu isn't faking it; as far as I was concerned, the castle's collapse was Yotsuyu's death. Seeing her alive at the end of 4.0 was disappointing - but learning that she really HAD died, in a sense, tempered that feeling, somewhat.

Ayra must be a DRK because of all the Salted Earth we saw.

Dunno anything about FFRK or FEH, but in Brave Exvius, Cidolphus "Thundergod Cid" Orlandeau is the undisputed King of Salt.

[Cilia]

I'm definitely interested in what they're doing with Fordola's storyline. The revelation that she's being forced to relive her atrocities from the receiving end... Well, to be honest, that has got to be just about as close as any punishment can come to true justice. In my mind, she's come a good chunk of the way toward redemption already: She's been harshly punished, she feels genuine remorse (or, at least, seems to), and she has proven willing to work to atone for her misdeeds. The trick will be convincing the general populous of Ala Mhigo to give her a chance. They have a lot of very justified anger at her.

I agree that Fordola's punishment, while not meted by the Ala Mhigans, is very fitting. They may never forgive her (as expected, there are reasons she got the moniker "Butcher"), but more importantly I'm not sure she'll ever forgive herself. This is why I believe she will walk the path of atonement, never really feeling like she's redeemed herself. Hopefully it doesn't end the way it did with Ysayle...

Dunno anything about FFRK or FEH, but in Brave Exvius, Cidolphus "Thundergod Cid" Orlandeau is the undisputed King of Salt.

There are... circumstances surrounding Ayra that made players salty about her, specifically:

• She's extremely powerful when built right, and her skillset uniquely emphasizes speed over everything else.
• Her banner came out just one week after the last; usually there's a 2 week gap.
• Her banner is the first to have only one new unit (her).
• It was assumed she would be the new score attack reward; she is not.
• The actual score attack reward unit turned out to be... another sword armor knight with some pretty, uhh... I don't wanna say bad, but... artwork that isn't to many peoples' liking. Other than a unique skill that always lets him double as long as he's above 50% HP, there's nothing that really makes him stand out.
• Due to the high power of the units in the previous banner, many people spent their stockpiled currency trying to get them (and under the aforementioned assumption Ayra would be an earned reward), and now have nothing left to try getting Ayra with.
• She shares a color with another focus unit in her banner, meaning that you have an equal chance of getting him instead, and he's been around for a long while. The other focus unit in her banner is a healer, which... tend to be less than useful.

Me? Ayra would be nice, but I don't feel like playing those odds; I have a ridiculously built Black Knight anyway. I just want Deirdre from the previous banner for a good anti-dragon mage (not 2 copies of Minerva and a practically useless 5* Boey). It's available for another week, so here's hoping. In the meantime I'm having fun with my well-built Arvis and his training buddy, crazy awesome Valter, so... ehh.

/mobage rant

[Theodric]

I think they struck the right balance with Fordola. They didn't excuse her actions completely but at the same time they didn't show the Ala Mhigans as particularly pleasant or rational when it came to her, either. Fordola and Yotsuyu have a lot in common - both of them were abused as early as childhood by some of their own people. It's completely understandable that it served to twist them. In Yotsuyu's case she ended up with nobody to rely upon to protect her. In Fordola's case she saw her father murdered right before her very eyes...and she almost got hit by the rocks being thrown herself.

[Alleo]

Well I am not sure if I could stay rational in front of someone that might have killed/tortured people that I love. And at least they showed that some of them are at least willing to thank her for saving them even if they still cant forgive her. I find that to be a very human view and reaction of such an situation. Its just not that easy and simple to forgive someone for doing horrible things especially if its about people you love.

(I am talking about the recent Ala Mhigans, not those that threw the stones.)

[Qojon]

After seeing that one scene where Hien cuts through a Magitek Sky Armor, I was reminded of this...