Can we have some sort of Wolves Den personal dps meter?

[TiaHariberu]

It's like banging my head on a wall...




You've just called yourself bronze...?

Atleast he played pvp in 3.x and knows how meaningless ranks are right now. I literally see u ingame on heal 24/7 throwing random cc and rarely tbn nice "diamond" makes it obvious that it means nothing. Also high split dmg isnt that "high" in sb pvp it rarely gets anywhere especially with a good tank.

[Gallus]

Literally everything your switches, that u are on heal most of the time, your cc timing etc. I even rewatched a game against u to check what u do so yeah. I didnt called u s1 bronze I said if u played in s1 you would be bronze there is a difference you just started so its hard to understand for u but pvp used to be alot better (more depth, higher skill ceiling, more rating gain/loss, more skills) etc. now it's just meh so rankings dont have any real value most of the time.

I'm on the healer most of the time, unless they have a BLM, because it's very often the most efficient way to have their melee killed, it's basically the "off stance mode". If they have a monk, what I do is bait their RoF, stun them, unmend them, mess up their burst, and then go straight to the healer. As for this:

rarely tbn

Good job lying. I even have 4 macros of TBN each one to each member of my party so that I don't have to interrupt my pressure on my target. I literally, and I mean literally keep TBN whenever it's up to anything lower than 80% (most times it's the melee unless the ranged or heal have 1 vulne). Like, I'd swear to god I'm the biggest TBN spammer in the entire top 100. So talk about straight up lying.

[TiaHariberu]

Good job lying. I even have 4 macros of TBN each one to each member of my party . Like, I'd swear to god I'm the biggest TBN spammer in the entire top 100. So talk about straight up lying.

But u only need 3 macros since you dont have to macro for urself :thinking: but okay if u dont want to learn lol

[Gallus]

But u only need 3 macros since you dont have to macro for urself :thinking: but okay if u dont want to learn lol

Yep, true. But you know what? For every TBN I apply on myself I apply 50 to my melee, 20 to my healer and 10 to my ranged, so hardly matters (could change my <1> TBN macro for the skill itself but meh). The only instance where I spam TBN on myself is when the game is say 1 minute from ending, I try to kite as much as possible with sprint with TBN spam and stuns on their melee with Grit on. That happens like 1 out of 20 games though, the only instance where I pick medals that put me with 4+ vulnes is when nobody else does (for whatever reason...) and need those medals because we are behind (and I only do that if game is almost ending, personally, I find it easier to make a comeback under normal circumstances than expecting not to get killed with 4+ vulnes when there are still 2 mins and 30 seconds left).

[TiaHariberu]

Yep, true

It's okay keep up your 220k dmg on drk while losing easy farm for me whenever I q. You focus to much on dmg you literally do 200+ k dmg while not killing anything in a whole 8min game meanwhile enemy dps and tank have way less dmg and dominate.Like I said if u dont want to learn or advice ok or tell me I lie but I stream and can rewatch lol.

[Gallus]

It's okay keep up your 220k dmg on drk while losing easy farm for me whenever I q. You focus to much on dmg you literally do 200+ k dmg while not killing anything in a whole 8min game meanwhile enemy dps and tank have way less dmg and dominate.Like I said if u dont want to learn or advice ok or tell me I lie but I stream and can rewatch lol.

Doing 220k damage doesn't exclude me from fulfilling my other duties such as CC or TBN. Or you think 130k Drks don't do 200k because they are busy with TBN?
At this point I can't help but think you've decided to turn this discussion into a war (judging by your "you'd be bronze/silver by how you play" makes me think you wanted this from the very beginning).

The point of this thread was a dps meter in the wolves den for the fresh PVP rotations. It's something that would cost almost no resources, something extremely easy to implement, and would be a bonus. I said I was diamond when the first answer I got was from someone who said "game is all about bursts and CC", which any diamond player I believe knows that, my point wasn't that I'm a super good player or anything, just that I knew something as elemental as that. But a couple of you jumped on me like hungry wolves with remarks such as "being dia doesn't mean you are good, in fact you are bad" or "dia in S5= bronze in other seasons".

Anyhow, pvp rotations are indeed easy, and the dummy wouldn't only serve the purpose of learning to performing them properly (because they are pretty simple), but we'd all (PS4 players too) know what damage difference there is amongst all the classes. A PLD hits way less than a DRK, but how much less? Or a WAR supossedly hits harder than a DRK, but by how much? There'd be a few interesting stuff to test. Testing this sort of stuff doesn't mean getting obsessed with numbers or not acknowledging there are a lot of other variables that decide which team wins/loses.

[Commander_Justitia]

Anyhow, pvp rotations are indeed easy, and the dummy wouldn't only serve the purpose of learning to performing them properly (because they are pretty simple), but we'd all (PS4 players too) know what damage difference there is amongst all the classes. A PLD hits way less than a DRK, but how much less? Or a WAR supossedly hits harder than a DRK, but by how much?

Thing is, burst of the classes have been dumped down so strictly that there is not much variation anymore how the burst develops. Most classes have their 6-10s window where the burst happens, taking more than 20s to calculate the burst wouldn't be so useful for comparison of bursts I guess. That means you have like 7-15 GCD in that burst window, with no autoattacks, criticals, direct hits, evades,mitigation or whatever. If you really want to know you can just take your calculator and add these 7-15 GCD + offglobals together and you have the different burst outputs.

Putting SSS for PvP would mean putting dummy for 30 second parsings in there. It is not useful enough to invest dev time when you can get the information so easily anyway.

Edit:

As for your posts... let me ask you something... you don't seem to be a big fan of SSS or fflogs in the first place. I know fflogs can have a lot of biased numbers (and can generate some elitism), but don't you think its pros outshined its cons?

If more people would use the fullscale possibilities of fflogs then yes the pros would outshine, but this community rather develops into a percentile contest fight for casual content and this is something I would avoid...

[Mirch]

I'd swear to god I'm the biggest TBN spammer in the entire top 100.

This is one of the reason why you will not be considered a "diamond player"