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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Repurposing a striking dummy to give you numbers that will just about always be different and don't really match overall efficacy in a real competitive scenario really becomes a moot point.
    "Repurposing a striking dummy to give you numbers that will just about always be different and don't really match overall efficacy in a real Extreme Trial scenario becomes a moot point."

    So delete PvE version of SSS then, and eviscerate someone asking for a PvP one?
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    I've said nothing regarding PvE and it holds no relevance to this topic. As for the OP, I have nothing personal against them, nor do I think their idea is bad. I just don't feel it's necessary given what resources we already have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I've said nothing regarding PvE and it holds no relevance to this topic.
    It is relevant because there's no difference between how it helps PvE players versus how it might help PvP players. You're against the idea in general, with the opinion that it's not useful (to you). That's a perfectly fine opinion to have - especially given that what you said is correct - there already exists tools in the game for someone to learn how to maximize the actions they take whether it's an Extreme Trial or ranked Feast or casual Frontlines. But I guarantee that some people find the PvE SSS useful, despite all the tools they had already, and that someone will find it useful in PvP. SE found that it was a viable addition to the game for PvE. If anything it's just more proof that shows that PvP is an after-thought.

    Now I absolutely am of the opinion that PvP has bigger fish to fry, and if we can get any attention at all, an SSS dummy is near the bottom of the To-Do list. But there's no reason why we can't put it on that list.
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    Thanks Geryth, it's encouraging to see that someone agrees with me . As for the flame, that was partly my fault, firstly for even mentioning that I was diamond rank in the first place, and secondly for answering and getting involved in a sort of discussion I wasn't remotely looking for when creating this thread. To tell the truth I was expecting most people to unanimously support this, or at worst I expected neutral responses such as "Personally I don't care, but let those who want one test their stuff". Truth is...the idea hasn't been very well received so far xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geryth View Post
    It is relevant because there's no difference between how it helps PvE players versus how it might help PvP players. You're against the idea in general, with the opinion that it's not useful (to you).
    Most people don't even use pve sss lol. PvP and PvE is completely different which why its not useful at all I don't know what's so hard to understand OP made a suggestion and most ppl already said why its not useful. Adding a useless tool for like 2 players is a waste of resources too. People who want to be good at pvp have enough tools.
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    Why even have sss for pvp, you have battle log, you know the actions potency are more or less the same as the real damage, you know the roles hp are fixed, apply some basic math.
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