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  1. #61
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    Stillwaters's Avatar
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    Zolriser Akh
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fernosaur View Post
    It does boggle the mind that they designed such a terrible housing system, and even more so that people keep defending them.
    I have yet to see someone defending the housing system and more understanding the reasons for why we have the system that we do, versus those that, may be crudely summarized, to I want more housing and believing there are no legitimate reasons for why we have what we have.
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  2. #62
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoraki View Post
    Adding and maintaining more wards is expensive, and the reason this patch has been otherwise light on content. SE can't simply 'add more'. There *is* instanced housing in the form of apartments, but everyone seems to snub their noses at it for not being as good as the persistent offering.
    What can you put in apartments? I'm curious as if I can decorate or even grow plants in a pot, I'd be happy.
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  3. #63
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    This, yes this, forever this!♡♡♡♡ maybe an instanced courtyard or something with 1-2 flowerbeds, at least its something
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  4. #64
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    Warit Jutamachat
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    As much as i love the company , the situation is just unfair and i wish they take the time to fix this issue. Apartment was a nice move in the right direction but i feel this would also have worked perfectly for housing i rarely see any neighbors and it wouldn't change anything if they instanced it. Needless to say the timer is stupid as hell to hostage your sub. Provide a house per account or expend on apartment so people can do something similar as housing.
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  5. #65
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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    What can you put in apartments? I'm curious as if I can decorate or even grow plants in a pot, I'd be happy.
    You can do both. However you can't do cross breeding like you can with a garden. You can decorate but have a lower amount of items you can place (100 for apartment and 200 for small house). You also can't add more people to your apartment like you can with a house. People can visit you but you can't add them as a tenant. Also there's no workshop in an apartment. Though the workshop only makes housing items and fc airships neither of which are actually something one MUST have as without a house there is no use for the housing items and you can get to Diadem other ways than fc airship.
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  6. #66
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Apartments vs housing is night and day difference. I regret buying an apartment and vacated it rather quick because housing has so much more features. They are NO SOLUTION to this problem.
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  7. #67
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Stillwaters View Post
    I have yet to see someone defending the housing system and more understanding the reasons for why we have the system that we do, versus those that, may be crudely summarized, to I want more housing and believing there are no legitimate reasons for why we have what we have.
    The thing is... I can't think of an actual legitimate reason for why we have what we have, at least none that isn't "we fucked up."

    Completely instanced housing would have been way easier to do in terms of server loads, area concept, design and building, and development time. Even if they wanted to make it limited, it would have been waaay easier to increase the amount of available houses as the population grew, and the incremental measures could have been added on a world by world basis.

    Sadly, the only hope to fix the housing mess without entirely overhauling it is to improve apartments so that they allow access to the FC features locked behind housing, ie. Workshops and Gardening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    In 3.x, Cover was useless and everyone wanted a gap closer. In 4.x, gap closers are useless and everyone wants Cover.

  8. #68
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    You can do both. However you can't do cross breeding like you can with a garden. You can decorate but have a lower amount of items you can place (100 for apartment and 200 for small house). You also can't add more people to your apartment like you can with a house.
    Plus the limitation that decorating can use indoor items only. There's no place to put (or even store) something like a tree that you'd gotten in an earlier seasonal event.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Also there's no workshop in an apartment.
    Well, there's no workshop in a personal house either. This limitation really comes down to the fact that apartments are limited to being personal only. There's no such thing as an FC apartment.
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  9. #69
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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Plus the limitation that decorating can use indoor items only. There's no place to put (or even store) something like a tree that you'd gotten in an earlier seasonal event.



    Well, there's no workshop in a personal house either. This limitation really comes down to the fact that apartments are limited to being personal only. There's no such thing as an FC apartment.
    Thank you for the corrections. I don't own a personal house so didn't realize they don't have workshops and I figured only indoor items was apparent.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
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    or players could not be selfish and we work together.

    players fault they wanted personal fc homes tbh. :/ no matter what player homes would be limited, game has too many players across too few servers
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