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  1. #51
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    ArchangelSavior's Avatar
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    Xavier Savior
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arckrin View Post
    For those that says adding more wards is expensive, you don't know what you talk about, they enhanced the graphics and now the worse place that's sounds a ps4 pro is in the wards and the difference before SB, is minimum at the eye, they just stop optimizate the resources, now add wards it is the same easy as the probe with the appartements, why is this? Easy auto-generated apartments was automatically generated when people buy until the 30 spots where full and the mantainance are easy. For other part instances aren't a good option since there is a instance server and instance local this you can test by been in a party and enter to the rising stonework walking sands, so for fc is bad option.
    PLEASE STOP! BECAUSE I AM PS4 PRO! PLEASE STOP BLAME AT US SO S---! I WANT HOUSE HOUSE HOUSE AND HOUSE! I WAS WAITED QUE AT 1,000 UGH NOT JUST ONLY YOU NO..... ALL COMPUTER ALL PS4 SAME DON'T GET HOUSE! WE WANT MORE WARDS ALL FREE NOT LIMIT WARDS! NO!
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  2. #52
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    ArchangelSavior's Avatar
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    Xavier Savior
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    100 items for apartments, 200 for small houses, 300 for mediums and 400 for a large.

    All of your links are broken.

    House demolition is suspended, but I think they have 45 days to build a house before it becomes reclaimed. Hopefully, that is separate from inactive housing reclamation.
    so what!? don't tell me about Limit items because I knows!
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  3. #53
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arckrin View Post
    For those that says adding more wards is expensive, you don't know what you talk about, they enhanced the graphics and now the worse place that's sounds a ps4 pro is in the wards
    Graphics are on your machine, not SE's servers. When people talk about the expense of adding more wards, they're talking about SE's expense of the servers to maintain all those wards 24/7.

    With instanced housing (like apartments) it's not maintained all the time. The server creates an instance of your apartment whenever you enter it, then removes that instance whenever you leave, freeing the server space to be used for something else all the rest of the time. It's a much more efficient pattern.
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  4. #54
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Add 12 more wards... one at a time... at random intervals over a 6mos period... DO NOT ADVERTISE IT WHEN YOU ADD A NEW WARD... no rush for housing no server lag better chance to get a house... not perfect but better than they way they add housing now... didn't log in to check if housing was available? Then it's on you
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  5. #55
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ArchangelSavior View Post
    so what!? don't tell me about Limit items because I knows!
    I was.... making a correction because you said apartments have 300 items, saying it's not enough room and listing that the only house with more than 300 items is a mansion. Naturally, I question if you actually knew or if it was a legitimate typo. Also, your links are still broken.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  6. #56
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    I understood house scarcity being an issue in Ultima Online, a game that launched back in 1997. Houses were just in the actual world. There weren't any wards. If there was space and trees weren't blocking you, you could place a house. The land filled up eventually, and you had to wait for an expansion to add more land mass in order to get more housing.

    FFXIV has separate copy/paste zones for housing. The fact that they've designed this game's housing so poorly to have all of the problems Ultima Online had but without the hard restriction of having housing in the open world is mind-boggling. There's lots of ways they could have fixed / addressed this before 4.1. But they didn't.
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  7. #57
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    Nyx Protogenos
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    Cactuar
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    There absolutely is content locked behind housing. Which is complete and utter bull. FC workshops, airships, gardening are some to name a few.

    Im ok with housing being somewhat limited and having to move quickly but this is not ok
    When housing was first released and even when extra plots were added it was NEVER this bad. You atleast had a day or two to try and get a plot. Some servers had a little longer. So yea everyone was expecting competition for plots, especially the large ones. But I dont think anyone expected it to be this bad. I got in at 6:01 and all the large plots and half the medium ones were sold out. Some people that were able to get in ended up with an error that prevented them from buying any housing despite meeting all requirements. And that's just the beginning of it.

    So yea people are upset that they didn't get a house, but from what Ive seen, majority is upset that they didnt get a fair chance at it.
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  8. #58
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    ArmachiA's Avatar
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    Armi Alliando
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    I think housing is important to different people. I raid, but I understand that a lot of people don't and, to them, all that raid content is utterly useless. Maybe they don't have time or they aren't interested. So, to a lot of people, housing is kind of an endgame. I think it's fair for them to be upset about that. It would be like if only the first 1000 raid teams actually got to raid then it kicked everyone else out till the next raid tier. Then people started selling their raid slots once they were done with them for millions of gil.

    Pretty sure people would be livid.

    Raid is also optional, it doesn't need to be done (As is the argument whenever people complain that raiding is too hard).
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  9. #59
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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Here's an idea to fix some of the problem. Move to fc's which have houses already. Surely a lot of fcs could combine into a larger fc? I know there are personality conflicts but these can be worked out or even bypassed by finding compatible fcs to merge with. I'd be more than happy to open my fc to people without houses. My house is small but I'm always looking to upgrade it. I have a friend who has a large house who is always looking for new members. Sometime you simply have to compromise.
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  10. #60
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Every house, be it FC or personal, should have been instanced content from day 1. The design they have set up right now is literal garbage for a game with the amount of suscribers they have. To keep the "neighbourhood" feeling they could have added different areas from which to access each set of instanced houses, shared between them all, with the marketing NPCs, the marketboard, aetherytes, etc outside to keep people in the same neighbourhood interacting. If you could set it so access to your plot of land was public or private people could still see your house decoration, etc.

    It does boggle the mind that they designed such a terrible housing system, and even more so that people keep defending them. Apartments could still be a thing to buy cheaply, but different house sizes, garden size, sea/mountain views and other options should just increase the base cost of the house. It's not rocket science...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    In 3.x, Cover was useless and everyone wanted a gap closer. In 4.x, gap closers are useless and everyone wants Cover.

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