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    RANT: All the outcries for frustration and disappointment may become naught. :(

    Now that the initial rage is over, I have become increasingly hopeless that SE might never address this issue properly since this doesn't seem to affect the "majority" of the player base. Even if limited players make claims to unsub from the game, the impact seems to be minor (I would have too if not for my 60 days time cards).

    Meanwhile, party finder and Housing Market subreddit threads are spammed with desperate players clawing at their wallets to dish out immense amount of gil and promises in order to satisfy the housing needs. This begger-like behaviour (I am sorry but it felt really real) is depressing, and it took all of my sanity to not join in to fulfill my year-long waited dream.

    Yet, I am sure that the "majority of the player base" will turn a deaf ear to the furious outcries, so will the GM. How many of the house trading will actually be caught and punished appropriately? Not likely.

    Unfortunately for most, housing is "casual" content that the game can do with or without.However, they do not realize the devastating effect of failing to acquire a housing. What do most players do between patches? Mainly crafting and chilling with their FC friends right? With most of the interesting casual contents locked behind adequate housing (apartment is NOT enough!), casual players (especially new FCs) are missing out! Well, since it is not raid content, this concerns are not necessarily relevant to be addressed? Screw casuals right? Well damn! I don't know about others, but I enjoy FFXIV due to its casual-friendly gaming experience!
    To be frank, even if I do not have the appropriate statistics, I am sure that FFXIV player population has grown very much during the past few years. The current housing supply can no longer satisfy the much needed demands of new and returning players. Nonetheless, might just end up with an announcement saying: "we wanted housing to be limited. Deal with it."

    GGRIP.

    Note: Interestingly, not much objections in the Japanese housing forums. Perhaps the issue is less severe for Japanese players (their main player base)? Who knows.

    Over and out. Sorry for the rant, first time posting on forums. Cheers.
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    I've seen a few threads about complaints in the JP forums being removed, but those were complaints from NA or EU players so it might be censorship based on region.

    I think the best thing we can do is to keep posting threads and make this an active issue. We're going to be called salty. We're going to be trolled. But this is the only way to let the devs know that their fanbase is unhappy.
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    Given the fact Yoshi P himself has stated before they want the players who own houses to feel "special" for owning one, this reality we are living is not a "problem" as much as it is its actual "design". To put it simply, our outrage for not having housing content is exactly what was intended.

    Having that said, I personally don't believe anything will ever change in this topic, no matter how many posts we make expressing our unhappiness.
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    (Part 1)
    Well I can only base this on the information given by XIVCensus I can readily use. If I bugger up somewhere along the lines feel free to correct me.

    * (Any reference to "Active" players, refers to players that have claimed the 3.3 story minion)

    We currently have a total of 2,880 plots of land on each server. Plus apartments which I won't go into.

    Averaging out the total active characters across all regional realms (rounded down to the nearest hundred for argument's sake) we are left with some food for thought.

    NA: 15,000/server (12,120/server without access to housing).
    JP: 7,600/server (4,720/server without access to housing).
    EU: 12,800/server (9,920/server without access to housing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudito View Post
    But this is not the Japanese forum so they won’t listen to us. Why would they? They don’t care and they already have our money.

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    These numbers are hardly exact. Especially since we are talking characters per server as opposed to accounts. Given the 3.3 story requisite to have been included however we can argue that a lot of alts, mules, etc were absent from being included. That said it is fair easy to see why the JP servers do not see a problem like NA and EU do. The problem however is that the community with the problem is the community wholly ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudito View Post
    But this is not the Japanese forum so they won’t listen to us. Why would they? They don’t care and they already have our money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelesK View Post
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    These numbers are hardly exact. Especially since we are talking characters per server as opposed to accounts. Given the 3.3 story requisite to have been included however we can argue that a lot of alts, mules, etc were absent from being included. That said it is fair easy to see why the JP servers do not see a problem like NA and EU do. The problem however is that the community with the problem is the community wholly ignored.
    And that's because, as Erudito said in your signature, they don't care about us. They care about our dollars, but not us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair_Helyous View Post
    And that's because, as Erudito said in your signature, they don't care about us. They care about our dollars, but not us.
    I felt it was a quote worth emphasising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudito View Post
    But this is not the Japanese forum so they won’t listen to us. Why would they? They don’t care and they already have our money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair_Helyous View Post
    Given the fact Yoshi P himself has stated before they want the players who own houses to feel "special" for owning one, this reality we are living is not a "problem" as much as it is its actual "design". To put it simply, our outrage for not having housing content is exactly what was intended.

    Having that said, I personally don't believe anything will ever change in this topic, no matter how many posts we make expressing our unhappiness.
    Actually, according to the Kotaku article posted about the Mateus couple, he emphasised a "fair" system. It seems far more likely the devs simply underestimate how valued housing is. That, or they simply don't want to let go of a failing system. They had to be embarrassed on their own live stream before finally caving on GC restrictions for PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelesK View Post
    ...

    NA: 15,000/server (12,120/server without access to housing).
    JP: 7,600/server (4,720/server without access to housing).
    EU: 12,800/server (9,920/server without access to housing).
    I feel that this is a very important note. With subscription increase and server reduction, we've achieved a very robust community. I would argue that this is for the good. I, personally, enjoy the our denser populations.

    !That being said! The housing feature, being the only aspect of the game with a definitive finite quantity, must rise in correlation to the increase of afore mentioned population. To argue otherwise is maliciously obtuse.

    I sincerely hope the outrage does not dwindle. I canceled my subscription over this. I did not want to. But my voice will be heard, however small, however slight.
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    What they need to do is restrict personal housing to one house per account per player as the housing system is only going to be a pain point until SE says the code is going into effect on a date, and forces those with many houses to get rid of them for gill before SE automatically destroys their excess houses.

    I would also be keen on letting players that want to build an entire subdivision be able to buy an instance of a complete ward for themselves as a crazy expensive thing so someone that wants to have that much land has an option to get that much land without screwing over the rest of us.
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