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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    The acceptable ping for a MMO client to a server is about 0.1 sec, which we can get to Japan easily
    How? As a EU player I never had below 0.4 delay in FFXI and with my EU ls we rarely got claims at HNM camps before SE introduced the claim "wall".
    Highly doubt any JP or NA players can understand this unless they travel here and try it for themself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickalk View Post
    How? As a EU player I never had below 0.4 delay in FFXI and with my EU ls we rarely got claims at HNM camps before SE introduced the claim "wall".
    Highly doubt any JP or NA players can understand this unless they travel here and try it for themself.
    He is speaking in general, not in the case of FFXI/FFXIV. Step back for a second and then reread the post you responded to.
    Whether his claims are true or not is one thing though, but he wasn't speaking in the case of either Square game so those experiences are moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickalk View Post
    How? As a EU player I never had below 0.4 delay in FFXI and with my EU ls we rarely got claims at HNM camps before SE introduced the claim "wall".
    Highly doubt any JP or NA players can understand this unless they travel here and try it for themself.
    FFXI has been using old servers and networking equipment compared to what we should be running 14 on, for us in the EU then I would agree 0.1 sec ping probably is a little fast but it shouldnt be much more, maybe 0.2 or 0.3, because the internet is getting faster, just because you got a 0.4 sec ping on FFXI doesnt mean much these days because of the rapidly evolving technology.

    New protocols and faster networking and harware are being released all the time so because FFXI, probably now using 2-3 year old gear will have a slower ping than FFXIV when we get the half decent servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    FFXI has been using old servers and networking equipment compared to what we should be running 14 on, for us in the EU then I would agree 0.1 sec ping probably is a little fast but it shouldnt be much more, maybe 0.2 or 0.3, because the internet is getting faster, just because you got a 0.4 sec ping on FFXI doesnt mean much these days because of the rapidly evolving technology.

    New protocols and faster networking and harware are being released all the time so because FFXI, probably now using 2-3 year old gear will have a slower ping than FFXIV when we get the half decent servers.
    That sounds like a pretty big assumption to me. While I agree the FFXI servers probably run on older hardware it doesn't mean the network equipment is of worse quality. Quite the opposite actually, most if not all big companies update their network equipment regulary.

    As you said, SE are working on a new server infrastructure which hopefully will solve most delay problems. However, EU players will always be at the bottom of the food chain if we're all connecting to the same japanese server. I believe that was the point the OP tried to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickalk View Post
    That sounds like a pretty big assumption to me. While I agree the FFXI servers probably run on older hardware it doesn't mean the network equipment is of worse quality. Quite the opposite actually, most if not all big companies update their network equipment regulary.

    As you said, SE are working on a new server infrastructure which hopefully will solve most delay problems. However, EU players will always be at the bottom of the food chain if we're all connecting to the same japanese server. I believe that was the point the OP tried to make.
    It should only be about 0.1 secs, the only other way they can stop that is regional servers which I am hugely against, I want the sevrers to be populated all day, and I have made too many friends with people around the world to agree with regional servers.
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