FFXIV Servers, are needed ?

[Jinko]

The acceptable ping for a MMO client to a server is about 0.1 sec, which we can get to Japan easily, the problem is SE's servers run slow and thier internal network doesnt seem efficiant the 2.0 servers will fix the problem even if they are in Japan.

Most people are getting 150-300 ms latency (this is just network latency) which according to what you said is not acceptable.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Network-Delay

[Jynx]

People seriously need to understand it's far less about location and more about the actual servers (That are being worked on as we speak).

[Secret_Reeve]

probably never happen but dual cpu servers, 96+gb ddr3 ram, SSD's to run the data off. would help with latency alot. although tbh, the SSD's are FAR to unreliable and high maintenence for a server. 10krpm HDD, gotta love them.

[Delsus]

How? As a EU player I never had below 0.4 delay in FFXI and with my EU ls we rarely got claims at HNM camps before SE introduced the claim "wall".
Highly doubt any JP or NA players can understand this unless they travel here and try it for themself.

FFXI has been using old servers and networking equipment compared to what we should be running 14 on, for us in the EU then I would agree 0.1 sec ping probably is a little fast but it shouldnt be much more, maybe 0.2 or 0.3, because the internet is getting faster, just because you got a 0.4 sec ping on FFXI doesnt mean much these days because of the rapidly evolving technology.

New protocols and faster networking and harware are being released all the time so because FFXI, probably now using 2-3 year old gear will have a slower ping than FFXIV when we get the half decent servers.

[captainpicard]

The lag is extreme to the point of frustration. I think that servers should have been priority #1 all along, rather than hamlet defense and chocobos.


Why build a roof if you don't have a house.

[Delsus]

Most people are getting 150-300 ms latency (this is just network latency) which according to what you said is not acceptable.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Network-Delay

Its not acceptable for a MMO, this is why they want our feedback, so they can upgrade thier network because the problem is that wide spread there is an obvious problem at thier end and they want to see where thier bottlenecks are.

If say for example (dear god I hope its not true) they are using a 100Mb/s ethernet network then an upgrade 1Gb/s or even a 10Gb/s will really help with latency, there are too many options they could go through so I wont go into it fully.

The fact is that SE knows there is a latency problem on thier end which is why they are investigating.

[Delsus]

The lag is extreme to the point of frustration. I think that servers should have been priority #1 all along, rather than hamlet defense and chocobos.


Why build a roof if you don't have a house.

There two different teams, a programmer and artist that make the hamlet defence and chocobos cannot configure servers and network equipment they are completly different, its like me telling somone, "well you have a driving licence, you can drive so why dont you become a racing driver" which are both completly different, just because you can drive doesnt mean you can race cars.

[rickalk]

FFXI has been using old servers and networking equipment compared to what we should be running 14 on, for us in the EU then I would agree 0.1 sec ping probably is a little fast but it shouldnt be much more, maybe 0.2 or 0.3, because the internet is getting faster, just because you got a 0.4 sec ping on FFXI doesnt mean much these days because of the rapidly evolving technology.

New protocols and faster networking and harware are being released all the time so because FFXI, probably now using 2-3 year old gear will have a slower ping than FFXIV when we get the half decent servers.

That sounds like a pretty big assumption to me. While I agree the FFXI servers probably run on older hardware it doesn't mean the network equipment is of worse quality. Quite the opposite actually, most if not all big companies update their network equipment regulary.

As you said, SE are working on a new server infrastructure which hopefully will solve most delay problems. However, EU players will always be at the bottom of the food chain if we're all connecting to the same japanese server. I believe that was the point the OP tried to make.

[Delsus]

That sounds like a pretty big assumption to me. While I agree the FFXI servers probably run on older hardware it doesn't mean the network equipment is of worse quality. Quite the opposite actually, most if not all big companies update their network equipment regulary.

As you said, SE are working on a new server infrastructure which hopefully will solve most delay problems. However, EU players will always be at the bottom of the food chain if we're all connecting to the same japanese server. I believe that was the point the OP tried to make.

It should only be about 0.1 secs, the only other way they can stop that is regional servers which I am hugely against, I want the sevrers to be populated all day, and I have made too many friends with people around the world to agree with regional servers.

[Zenaku]

I see this FFXI had about 1-2sec delay when moving when i move my GF see it 1-2 Sec. on hours that there a lot of people that don't change by much. I think FFXIV if 2.0 servers can do that then we don't really need the servers in NA at all this is not a fast speed MMO like wow where you need to have very low ping even for PVP.