What if I don't WANT skills on my bar?

[Holland]

I guess he was talking about non-TP actions like Broad Swing, Heavy Slash or whatever.

The information released reffered to all actions, across spells, WS's and skills. All of them will amount to 15 by 1.20. We really don't know yet how this will pan out as we dont have the list itself of abilities. Hey, all I'm saying is "wait and see for now". I'll be at the head of the angry mob if we have a bunch of skills that are too situational and have to have them there by force.

[Renshi]

Ugh...nevermind. This text is too cryptic for me to understand, have to see it for real.
We'll be able to use 15 actions? +10 of different classes or included to that 15? What about our skills already obtained?
Baaah... lemme wait for December...

[Charismatic]

Ugh...nevermind. This text is too cryptic for me to understand, have to see it for real.
We'll be able to use 15 actions? +10 of different classes or included to that 15? What about our skills already obtained?
Baaah... lemme wait for December...

It's not cryptic.

You will gain 15 skills on your wait to Lv50 on any given class. These abilities will ALWAYS be available to you (as you cannot remove them from the bar)
You will be able to use up-to-10 abilities from other classes at Lv50.

15+10 = 25.

It is extremely simple.

[Holland]

Ugh...nevermind. This text is too cryptic for me to understand, have to see it for real.
We'll be able to use 15 actions? +10 of different classes or included to that 15? What about our skills already obtained?
Baaah... lemme wait for December...

Heh, it reffered to fifteen native actions for each class and will include spells(if any, for melee), WS's and abilities plus ten cross class actions and eleven traits that the class itself will learn, I don't remember reading if we would be able to swap traits from other classes, but I doubt it.

[Griss]

Look, I'm not arguing that I don't have space. I get that.

Why am I forced to have them on my bar?

Thats my question.

Because people were screaming Class identity like mad people the first half of the year. A commonly known base skill set is the best way to accomplish that.

[Renshi]

It's not cryptic.

You will gain 15 skills on your wait to Lv50 on any given class. These abilities will ALWAYS be available to you (as you cannot remove them from the bar)
You will be able to use up-to-10 abilities from other classes at Lv50.

15+10 = 25.

It is extremely simple.

This is not cryptic =)
Heh... blame me for being a Swiss. Thanks Chari!

[Sarchy_Warchy]

Don't be dumb, where else will the skills go? If you're going to play smart you won't even use those anyway because you will be using Macros...

What OP is trying to say is like:"I have weapons that I don't like! Instead of keeping them In my armory instead of on my person, lets go put them in the shed!"

[Charismatic]

Don't be dumb, where else will the skills go? If you're going to play smart you won't even use those anyway because you will be using Macros...

What OP is trying to say is like:"I have weapons that I don't like! Instead of keeping them In my armory instead of on my person, lets go put them in the shed!"

Except in the case of skills, there's literally nothing gained by 'putting them in the shed'. You wouldn't get extra space to put new skills on as there is a maximum of 10 cross class skills with the new system. If you want, you can just easily put them on the 3rd bar in slots you aren't worried about pressing or whatever. Whether or not the skill slots are blank makes absolutely no difference if you're not using the skill.
Just... don't use it, either way. This entire argument is dumb because there is nothing at all gained by taking the skills of the bar.

[Alhanelem]

So, if I don't want a skill on my bar, I HAVE to have it there?

Thanks for that...

Allow us to remove skills from our bar, but leave the cost of the skill or something.

I don't enjoy a cluttered bar and I remove anything I don't need for situations, please let us do this.

It's not like there are too many actions for your action bars. Just bury the actions you don't use on other action bars and forget about them.

Honestly though, I don't see the problem with the action point system. The limit on cross class skills is fine and to be expected, but why make every class's stuff learned at the exact same intervals (Not to mention fewer of those intervals which means some actions are being removed or more actions being learned at the same time)?

[kensredemption]

So, if I don't want a skill on my bar, I HAVE to have it there?

Thanks for that...

Allow us to remove skills from our bar, but leave the cost of the skill or something.

I don't enjoy a cluttered bar and I remove anything I don't need for situations, please let us do this.

I just kept mine filled for the sake of situational adaptation. You never know what you'll face next.