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  1. #61
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    Draxxion's Avatar
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    Draco'li Tayuun
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    As someone with a house, mine is in the Mists and have had the small house for months now, I am with everyone who is salty right now. It is content that you are locked out of if you don't have a house. It isn't game changing content mind you, but it us content. The whole housing thing is a huge issue when people can buy multiple houses and then flip them for profit. When you have a system that allows that then it is a terrible system. I will continue to offer my home to my friends as best I can, but things need to change.
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  2. #62
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    Kohdo's Avatar
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    Kodoyaki Takoyaki
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    Sephirot
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    Black Mage Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    My sub gives me access to content. I did lots to save enough gils for a medium plot. But I am not allowed access because of an artificial scarcity
    Loot drops and critical hits are also artificial scarcity. You haven't been disallowed content, you just haven't been lucky yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    it shouldnt be that hard to add more wards.
    Agree 100%. They should be adding new wards. No excuse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Difficulty as a barrier for content is totally fine. But in the case of housing, I did overcame the barrier (saving gils) but I am refused the content
    I ran Arboretum 46 times before my coat dropped. I had BiS gear, unlocked the dungeon - why didn't I get what I wanted the first time?

    The barrier to housing isn't simply getting the money, any more than the barrier to getting the loot you want is unlocking a dungeon. There's still a measure of luck involved. If everyone could get it that easily, it'd lose its' value.
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  3. #63
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    Venur's Avatar
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    Nazmul Souless
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Wich compagny implent a game feature where you must take a days-off your job just in order to have a tiny chance to be able to use the feature ?

    the awnser is SE.
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  4. #64
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    AngryPanda's Avatar
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    Yun Walder
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    Cactuar
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    Armorer Lv 60
    You want it that badly? Then you should've paid someone to get you one while you were at work.

    Simple means to an end.
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  5. #65
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    Venur's Avatar
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    Nazmul Souless
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryPanda View Post
    You want it that badly? Then you should've paid someone to get you one while you were at work.

    Simple means to an end.
    Lol your right. A feature is perfectly implented when you must pay someone to get it done (well for a chance too)
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  6. #66
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    AlexionSkylark's Avatar
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    Alexion Skylark
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryPanda View Post
    You want it that badly? Then you should've paid someone to get you one while you were at work.

    Simple means to an end.
    Even a SMALL bump in latency at the precise SECOND the servers went up meant you were left without a house. That had nothing to do with being able to be online at the time.
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  7. #67
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    Noxifer's Avatar
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    C'alih Tia
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    I see some faces in here saying being subscribed does entitle you to a house while in the thread about accessibility of super savage
    The issue isn't that it exists in the game or is hard to get to. You'd have an argument if they only allowed a certain amount of people into savage per server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    Loot drops and critical hits are also artificial scarcity. You haven't been disallowed content, you just haven't been lucky yet.

    I ran Arboretum 46 times before my coat dropped. I had BiS gear, unlocked the dungeon - why didn't I get what I wanted the first time?

    The barrier to housing isn't simply getting the money, any more than the barrier to getting the loot you want is unlocking a dungeon. There's still a measure of luck involved. If everyone could get it that easily, it'd lose its' value.
    You're also comparing apples and oranges. Now, if there were only a certain amount of players who could crit, and that depended on who "critted first", you'd have a point. If there were only a certain amount of coats from the Arboretum, and once those were gone you could only get one if someone discarded theirs, you'd have a point. That's not the case.
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  8. #68
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    Moogly's Avatar
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    Nana Hya
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    Loot drops and critical hits are also artificial scarcity. You haven't been disallowed content, you just haven't been lucky yet.
    Not at all.
    Rotations are pretty much like constantly playing a little dice game, like how you played in RPG books way long ago.
    I get my crits and loots if I win at that little lottery type game : that's fair.

    Housing is content - even more, since it actually gives you access to other content unaccessible otherwise (gardening, airship...).
    It is not available, not because I cannot overcome the difficulty, but because I am told it is out of stock... even though it is highly promoted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    The barrier to housing isn't simply getting the money, any more than the barrier to getting the loot you want is unlocking a dungeon. There's still a measure of luck involved. If everyone could get it that easily, it'd lose its' value.
    I do not see how luck is involved in this...
    Why couldn't I login in time to get a house ?
    - slow download -> about a hour to download the 1.7 GB patch
    - client version check bug -> hopefully reddit had a fix... wait reddit, not SE ?!!
    And I never said that unlocking a dungeon should automatically earn me my loots :s
    People in here have a funny way of reinterpretating other people's toughts :/

    The barrier in PVE is difficulty, isn't that clear enough ?

    You cannot compare the housing and looting systems as they have nothing in common in anyway I could think of...
    "Luck" and RNG has absolutely nothing to do with housing... In gardening, looting, damage dealing, OK, but housing ?!!!
    You're not making any point honestly...
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  9. #69
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    jameseoakes's Avatar
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    James Oakes
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    You have access to the same housing market as everyone else. If you have the gil, and you're searching for a house in the same market, you have access to all the same game features as anyone else searching for a house. If they happen to get to it first, and you miss out, too bad.



    Why?
    Why should it be? Housing should have been left to FCs alone the apartments make personnel housing fairly redundant anyway
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  10. #70
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    Imuka's Avatar
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    I'muka Mahsa
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    In the case, that everybody could get a House.
    Houses would only lose its value, for people who only see a value in Houses based on the feeling, that other people might feel envy about their Houses.
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    Last edited by Imuka; 10-11-2017 at 02:46 AM.

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