In Defence of Housing

[Doki]

Op, you must be really fun at parties.

[NellMoshroca]

I got the gil to purchase a house and i pay a subscription, so yes, i should have a house. Yes, it should be part of what i get with the game. But it isnt, and that needs to change.

[Kogekigami]

I'm a little saddened. My fc couldn't get the house they wanted due to log in throwing out the person in control of buying just as he was about to load in. If it hadn't he would of gotten the house. But we have a fc house and the move to Shirogane would of been nice. I managed to get the private house me and my husband and ingame brother wanted. I get people being disappointing. But outright unsubbing is a bit extreme. Especially people on over populated servers should of knew there chances were slim. Heck I'm on a under populated server and we had a 500+ wait. While I agree the housing is in desperate need of adjustment unsubbing is not the way.

[Garlantec]

I'm a little saddened. My fc couldn't get the house they wanted due to log in throwing out the person in control of buying just as he was about to load in. If it hadn't he would of gotten the house. But we have a fc house and the move to Shirogane would of been nice. I managed to get the private house me and my husband and ingame brother wanted. I get people being disappointing. But outright unsubbing is a bit extreme. Especially people on over populated servers should of knew there chances were slim. Heck I'm on a under populated server and we had a 500+ wait. While I agree the housing is in desperate need of adjustment unsubbing is not the way.

Sadly it is, as you won't be heard otherwise. Congratz on being able to get a personal one though.

[Elfidan]

What if the real problem is that there is nothing to spend gil on at end game levels? Gearing up comes from raiding , repairs are cheap if not free , and there are no real upkeep costs. We also don't pay taxes on housing which is interesting as I can't see people like Lolorito letting that stand for Uldah residents. Does anyone ever truely own anything? The short answer is only your own actions as even property in the real world is only on an indefinite loan to it's "owner" so the nation in which it exists can enforce the rule of law.

[Starflake]

I see some faces in here saying being subscribed does entitle you to a house while in the thread about accessibility of super savage, the plebs just needed to git gud. There is something strangely satisfying about seeing those people. Especially since I got my guild the 30 big house in Ward one. Have a good day though!

[Moogly]

OP doesnt make any sense at all...

My sub gives me access to content.
Did I "beat" housing ? In some ways yes : I did lots to save enough gils for a medium plot (for the big spender I am). But I am not allowed access because of an artificial scarcity of the thing.
I am pretty sure it shouldnt be that hard to add more wards. I might cost a little in terms of server infra and bandwidth, but hey, SE has lots of money don't they ?

Difficulty as a barrier for content is totally fine. I will probably never fight Neo Exdeath with the current gear and it is totally fine since I am the one lacking here.
But in the case of housing, I did overcame the barrier (saving gils) : but I am refused the content because... well I am told, there's no more plots available... in a virtual instanced world ?

Yes it is indeed a game.
And the content should be available if you paid for it.
I honestly don't understand YoshiP on this particular point... It's suicidal as a business...

[Kohdo]

My sub gives me access to content. I did lots to save enough gils for a medium plot. But I am not allowed access because of an artificial scarcity

Loot drops and critical hits are also artificial scarcity. You haven't been disallowed content, you just haven't been lucky yet.

it shouldnt be that hard to add more wards.

Agree 100%. They should be adding new wards. No excuse.

Difficulty as a barrier for content is totally fine. But in the case of housing, I did overcame the barrier (saving gils) but I am refused the content

I ran Arboretum 46 times before my coat dropped. I had BiS gear, unlocked the dungeon - why didn't I get what I wanted the first time?

The barrier to housing isn't simply getting the money, any more than the barrier to getting the loot you want is unlocking a dungeon. There's still a measure of luck involved. If everyone could get it that easily, it'd lose its' value.

[Noxifer]

I see some faces in here saying being subscribed does entitle you to a house while in the thread about accessibility of super savage

The issue isn't that it exists in the game or is hard to get to. You'd have an argument if they only allowed a certain amount of people into savage per server.

Loot drops and critical hits are also artificial scarcity. You haven't been disallowed content, you just haven't been lucky yet.

I ran Arboretum 46 times before my coat dropped. I had BiS gear, unlocked the dungeon - why didn't I get what I wanted the first time?

The barrier to housing isn't simply getting the money, any more than the barrier to getting the loot you want is unlocking a dungeon. There's still a measure of luck involved. If everyone could get it that easily, it'd lose its' value.

You're also comparing apples and oranges. Now, if there were only a certain amount of players who could crit, and that depended on who "critted first", you'd have a point. If there were only a certain amount of coats from the Arboretum, and once those were gone you could only get one if someone discarded theirs, you'd have a point. That's not the case.

[Moogly]

Loot drops and critical hits are also artificial scarcity. You haven't been disallowed content, you just haven't been lucky yet.

Not at all.
Rotations are pretty much like constantly playing a little dice game, like how you played in RPG books way long ago.
I get my crits and loots if I win at that little lottery type game : that's fair.

Housing is content - even more, since it actually gives you access to other content unaccessible otherwise (gardening, airship...).
It is not available, not because I cannot overcome the difficulty, but because I am told it is out of stock... even though it is highly promoted.

The barrier to housing isn't simply getting the money, any more than the barrier to getting the loot you want is unlocking a dungeon. There's still a measure of luck involved. If everyone could get it that easily, it'd lose its' value.

I do not see how luck is involved in this...
Why couldn't I login in time to get a house ?
- slow download -> about a hour to download the 1.7 GB patch
- client version check bug -> hopefully reddit had a fix... wait reddit, not SE ?!!
And I never said that unlocking a dungeon should automatically earn me my loots :s
People in here have a funny way of reinterpretating other people's toughts :/
The barrier in PVE is difficulty, isn't that clear enough ?

You cannot compare the housing and looting systems as they have nothing in common in anyway I could think of...
"Luck" and RNG has absolutely nothing to do with housing... In gardening, looting, damage dealing, OK, but housing ?!!!
You're not making any point honestly...