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  1. #21
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Hey MoroMurasaki, someone else has healed with you!
    You are just the worst kind of person. I forget it once.... Or twice.... Meh, numbers, semantics...
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  2. #22
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Isn't the person who could swap between protect and what ever in seconds but doesn't do it because he/she is to lazy to do so the scrub?

    I mean seriously just swap for gods sake, it doesn't hurt you...well you maybe have to take your eyes away from netflix for a moment if you are not using a macro but still.
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    Last edited by Ilan; 10-12-2017 at 05:25 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  3. #23
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pastahnak View Post
    Jeez I wish I had this party, I always have to quick cast protect because the tank usually books it right when the dungeon starts.
    I added the following to my protect macro:
    /p Casting Protect, please stay close!

    Since then, not a single person has run off during Protect at the start of a dungeon. That was a couple months ago. I've had people start, then come back to get it. Was honestly surprised at just how well it worked. Sometimes it seems people just forget that you haven't put it up yet.
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  4. #24
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I always cast Protect, so I can't say that I have. People like having it. Would I kick while I'm on another role if the healer didn't cast it? No, especially if we were clearing just fine. Results matter, in the end.

    That said, copy this macro:

    /macroicon Protect
    /macroerror off
    /aaction Largesse off
    /aaction Protect on
    /ac "Protect" <me>
    /wait 3
    /aaction Protect off
    /aaction Largesse on

    That will remove Largesse, add Protect, cast Protect, remove Protect, and add Largesse all with one button press. Hit it at the start of the dungeon. Everyone now has Protect, and you don't have to keep it as a role skill.
    Change it out with Esuana, no chance of cooldown conflict
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  5. #25
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I added the following to my protect macro:
    /p Casting Protect, please stay close!

    Since then, not a single person has run off during Protect at the start of a dungeon. That was a couple months ago. I've had people start, then come back to get it. Was honestly surprised at just how well it worked. Sometimes it seems people just forget that you haven't put it up yet.
    *clicks off protect*
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by samkitwood View Post
    any other healers ever been kicked by not using protect ? my main healer is astrologian and my role skills are : esuna , largesse , lucid dreaming , swiftcast and eye for an eye .
    in roulettes i have been kicked for not using protect despite the fact it doesnt actually provide that much of a mitigation .
    5% mitigation isnt essential and doesnt mean i cant dps . the complaints are almost exclusively from dps players , cant they attack without protect been on ??
    only the tank should be taking damage (except aoe attacks from bosses n other such things) so why not dps spend more time attacking n less time moaning about needing mitigation for moves that are avoidable in the 1st place
    Call me crazy, but how come you did not swap to protect at the start then swap back to your preferred role skill? I mean switching between the role skills would have took less time then coming to the forums and creating this thread.
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  7. #27
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    It's pretty sad we have all just accepted that all these optional skills are mandatory due to our community and as such we have learned to obey the hierarchy of necessary skills. I just wanna use rescue and be a hero but I don't have enough role skill slots. Why does SE taunt me with skills I want to use...
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  8. #28
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    Foxkid's Avatar
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    Ketsueki Bloodfox
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I always cast Protect, so I can't say that I have. People like having it. Would I kick while I'm on another role if the healer didn't cast it? No, especially if we were clearing just fine. Results matter, in the end.

    That said, copy this macro:

    /macroicon Protect
    /macroerror off
    /aaction Largesse off
    /aaction Protect on
    /ac "Protect" <me>
    /wait 3
    /aaction Protect off
    /aaction Largesse on

    That will remove Largesse, add Protect, cast Protect, remove Protect, and add Largesse all with one button press. Hit it at the start of the dungeon. Everyone now has Protect, and you don't have to keep it as a role skill.
    Is that how macros work on console or only on PC? I've been wondering on if I should use them or not but I'm not very privy to the system and just make extra skill bars to manage everything (currently a "healer" bar and a "dps" bar, but they're static unless I find skills that I actually need or want).
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    Well, at least I'm trying...

  9. #29
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxkid View Post
    Is that how macros work on console or only on PC? I've been wondering on if I should use them or not but I'm not very privy to the system and just make extra skill bars to manage everything (currently a "healer" bar and a "dps" bar, but they're static unless I find skills that I actually need or want).
    I don't have a PS4 to test, but AFAIK macros run the same on both. Creating them in the first place is a lot easier if you plug a keyboard into your PS4, of course.
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  10. #30
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    Pence's Avatar
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I don't have a PS4 to test, but AFAIK macros run the same on both. Creating them in the first place is a lot easier if you plug a keyboard into your PS4, of course.
    Correct, they're exactly the same on both.
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