What if I don't WANT skills on my bar?

[Vackashken]

There is no both sides to the argument. We should not be forced to have things on our bars we don't want. Thats just stupid and utterly thoughtless of them to do. Every single action on my bars now have a purpose and a spot. Why waste any space of placement whatsoever with crap abilities? There is no defense to this decision.

Its borderline laughable people are so vitriolic in defending this, once again proving some people think SE can do no wrong in their heads. That clearly turned out to be the case, right?

[Answa]

There is no both sides to the argument. We should not be forced to have things on our bars we don't want. Thats just stupid and utterly thoughtless of them to do. Every single action on my bars now have a purpose and a spot. Why waste any space of placement whatsoever with crap abilities? There is no defense to this decision.

Its borderline laughable people are so vitriolic in defending this, once again proving some people think SE can do no wrong in their heads. That clearly turned out to be the case, right?

I think the ardent venom comes from your side. You're assuming everything will be useless with absolutely no information to back you up. With only 15 abilities per class, you're likely to be wrong.

Regardless, too early to be bitching in this respect, as is the case with 95% of the bitching done in these forums.

[Vackashken]

I think the ardent venom comes from your side. You're assuming everything will be useless with absolutely no information to back you up. With only 15 abilities per class, you're likely to be wrong.

Regardless, too early to be bitching in this respect, as is the case with 95% of the bitching done in these forums.

I see no one speaking with vitriol in this thread but people who want to (bizarrely) justify not being able to take off abilities. And seriously... are you trying to say we should speculate every ability with have function in every instance we play the game? Seriously?

That so laughable you've bankrupted yourself. No information to back me up... get real. You or any one trying to imply that every skill we will be forced to have will have a use in every encounter is absolutely delusional. Doesn't happen in this game or any MMO - EVER.

There is absolutely no need to to adamantly have stuff on my bar I don't want. No amount of ridiculous bloviating will change that fact.

[Answa]

I see no one speaking with vitriol in this thread but people who want to (bizarrely) justify not being able to take off abilities. And seriously... are you trying to say we should speculate every ability with have function in every instance we play the game? Seriously?

That so laughable you've bankrupted yourself. No information to back me up... get real. You or any one trying to imply that every skill we will be forced to have will have a use in every encounter is absolutely delusional. Doesn't happen in this game or any MMO - EVER.

There is absolutely no need to to adamantly have stuff on my bar I don't want. No amount of ridiculous bloviating will change that fact.

You make as much sense as mixing together advanced words in an error-laden post.

[SniperRifle]

He is right that in this day in age, we should be allowed to remove what actions we don't want on our bar. Months from now a noobie will ask his friend "Cool i just unlocked Herp wat do i do with it?" and his friend will reply with "Oh just throw it at the bottom of your bar with Durr and Hurr."

Buuuuuuuuuut, maybe we won't have useless abilities after 1.20 and we'll actually use every single class trait/ability that was given to us. Maybe.

[Vackashken]

You make as much sense as mixing together advanced words in an error-laden post.

Nice fail at trying being witty and digging up a rebuttal. Run along now.

[Answa]

Nice fail at trying being witty and digging up a rebuttal. Run along now.

I didn't even try to dig up a rebuttal, because I could seriously not glean a speck of coherence from your post. But if you still yearn for a rebuttal, feel free to peruse my previous posts on the matter and toy with your own emotions.

Or reformulate your previous post in the form of a well-thought-out, what's the word....? Oh, right: thought.

[Kyana]

Let me just quote this part of the Class Reforms post:

4. Setting Actions and Traits

The following reforms will be made to the conditions for setting actions and traits:

* Upon learning an action for your current class, that action will automatically be set to the action bar and cannot be voluntarily removed. It will be possible, however, to move the action to another slot.

* Action costs will be abolished. Instead, a cap will be imposed upon the number of actions from other classes that can be set. The cap will be determined by the level of your current class.

* Players will no longer be bound by level restrictions when setting actions from other classes.
For instance, a level 1 pugilist will be able to set a level 30 gladiator action. However, the effectiveness of that action will be scaled down accordingly.

* All traits will be made class-exclusive.
Adjustments will be made so that certain actions will only unleash their full potential when paired with traits belonging to the same class.

* In conjunction with the above changes, the Actions & Traits interface will undergo redesign in order to make action placement and repositioning more intuitive. Readying an action for use will become a two-step process: players set an action, after which they will have the opportunity to rearrange the action bar.

It says you can move all your actions and traits as you like.
You'll still be able to select and set the abilities (and traits?) from other classes but the abilities and traits from your current class can't be removed.
You can still macro every ability how you like and with the addition of UI addons (though I'm not sure I like that addon system) you'll be able to do even more.

People should read the letters and dev posts, then take a step back and ask themself if it's really an issue worth complaining about or wait till further information is provided.

[Vackashken]

I didn't even try to dig up a rebuttal, because I could seriously not glean a speck of coherence from your post. But if you still yearn for a rebuttal, feel free to peruse my previous posts on the matter and toy with your own emotions.

Or reformulate your previous post in the form of a well-thought-out, what's the word....? Oh, right: thought.

Shhh, stop trying to save face with your babbling and run along. And if in all honestly can't read what I am writing perhaps its time to head back to the 5th grade and brush up on some reading comprehension.

Scat.

[Lavani]

Of those tons of skills you have now, only 15 will remain, add to that the fact their effects might be altered to accomodate combos, so you might as well be using them all in the future.

Those effects might not be worth using in the long run when Min/Maxing DPS, enmity or healing so why bother having them forced on the action bar?