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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirateski View Post
    Its cd is 30s shorter than DV, and the shield is better by virtue of affecting WAR as well even before you eat things to buff it.
    Well, it will need some testing, but looking at how it's worded, it seems there is a another big difference between Shake It Off and Divine Veil.
    Shake it off : "creates a barrier around self and all nearby party members that absorbs damage totaling 8% of maximum HP."
    Divine Veil : "Prevents damage up to 10% of your maximum HP"

    So, for now, we could assume that SiO works like Stoneskin, and scales on the receiver's max HP. As stats go higher and higher, SiO will fall behind more and more, keeping it "balanced" with its shorter CD and the benefit from WAR.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 10-10-2017 at 03:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Well, it will need some testing, but looking at how it's worded, it seems there is a another big difference between Shake It Off and Divine Veil.
    Shake it off : "creates a barrier around self and all nearby party members that absorbs damage totaling 8% of maximum HP."
    Divine Veil : "Prevents damage up to 10% of your maximum HP"

    So, for now, we could assume that SiO works like Stoneskin, and scales on the receiver's max HP. As stats go higher and higher, SiO will fall behind more and more, keeping it "balanced" with its shorter CD and the benefit from WAR.
    To be honest, I think shake it off will scale off of Wars max HP. It's 8% because you'll get 20% more HP in defiance, making it 10% of your base hp. Another note is that shake it off will shield the user and Divine Veil will not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury View Post
    To be honest, I think shake it off will scale off of Wars max HP. It's 8% because you'll get 20% more HP in defiance, making it 10% of your base hp.
    It will be easy to verify. Party with a low level character, go fight a cactuar and wait for 100 needles, pop Shake it Off, see if it wears off

    And if the basic effect is as strong as Divine Veil, I wonder what could possibly justify :
    - The longer CD ?
    - The need of healing magic to trigger it ?
    - The shiled not spreading to the user ?
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 10-10-2017 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    It will be easy to verify. Party with a low level character, go fight a cactuar and wait for 100 needles, pop Shake it Off, see if it wears off

    And if the basic effect is as strong as Divine Veil, I wonder what could possibly justify :
    - The longer CD ?
    - The need of healing magic to trigger it ?
    - The shiled not spreading to the user ?
    Honestly shake it off should have been 4% base.
    its pretty easy to just pop it when another ability is at 1-3 seconds left, or if u need to move during raw intuition, and awareness isnt up.

    Plus, it should still have removed negative debuffs, also granting 2% or 4% per debuff.
    starting at 8% is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    It will be easy to verify. Party with a low level character, go fight a cactuar and wait for 100 needles, pop Shake it Off, see if it wears off

    And if the basic effect is as strong as Divine Veil, I wonder what could possibly justify :
    - The longer CD ?
    - The need of healing magic to trigger it ?
    - The shiled not spreading to the user ?
    Probably because PLD also has Passage of Arms, Cover, Intervention and Clemency. Balance isn't a vacuum where you can just compare skills individually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    Probably because PLD also has Passage of Arms, Cover, Intervention and Clemency.
    Fair enough.
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