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    Can we as paying customers state the lack of Housing is simply unacceptable to SE?

    It has been over 3 years since SE introduced Housing in this game and for that long of time they have not addressed why it is too difficult to make more? There should be no reason why after 2 Expansions and millions of dollars garnered from the Cash Shop and Subs there simply isn't more housing. Clearly SE have no issue with cut/paste when it comes to recycling events (see Yokai Watch) or even assets like dungeon gear or enemies but are so adverse to doing so for Housing (the one thing ppl would not mind a cut/paste on). Housing is content that the VAST MAJORITY of the player base wants but SE would rather waste dev time/money on failed content like LoV or the twice failed Diadem. Heck they went out of their way to make (Ultimate) content for the sub 1% and making stupid "Perform" emotes no one asked for but can't be bothered to make more wards for the VAST MAJORITY of the player base? Also why bother gating Gardening and FC workshop behind Housing that most people can't partake in?
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    Hyomin Park
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    This is about the umpteenth time this has been brought up. SE either doesn't care or they are stubbornly clinging to their idea of "active" housing wards.
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    I'm 100% ok with the neighborhood feel of the Wards as is, I just want more of them. Preferably with enough supply to meet the demand. Its been over 3 years and two expansions later and their "answer" this time around is 720 total net-new plots (per server) for a 2Y+ expansion cycle. So every two years only those few people will have a remote chance of being able to buy a plot while the rest of the player base gets the shaft. Like what is the point of SE giving us Housing Items as event rewards when the VAST MAJORITY of the player base doesn't have housing to actually be able to use it? Housing serves also as an important gil sink and truth be told would be in their own interest to remove as much gil as possible from the economy, but by artificially limiting supply and by staying silent on addressing the housing issue they basically condone house/fc flipping for exorbitant prices.
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    I honestly think that they should move to instanced housing. Most Wards on my server are pretty dead, and while they're pretty, I would rather have the shift to instanced housing so that everyone can have a house. If FFXI can give every player instanced Moghouses, then why can't this game? Yeah, I'd miss decorating the yard but I don't really care too much about that if we could get nice instanced housing.
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    I wouldn't go as far to say that majority is locked out of content. Apartments and FC chambers at least let people use indoor furnishings. But you can't do crossbreeding with indoor flower pots so... an instance gardening area would be nice. QoL for gardening would be nice (water all crops with one selection). Actually the best would be stop having each crop be an individual target... just click the whole bed and it pops a window to edit each crop, like the fish tank popup window, then confirm changes and water all.
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    It's not they don't care as more the way housing was introduced is symbolic of FFXIV being a victim of it's own success - SE effectively designed ARR with the expectation that the game would not be anywhere near as successful as it was, using FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 as a guide for possible player population. Hence the restricted housing system was designed more with a far far lower player server population in mind; having 10 million+ plus players was never in their wildest dreams possible to them.

    Unfortunately, as development on the housing system had reached a point of no return by the time ARR launched and the game's overwhelming success was confirmed, all they could do was introduce it according to their original plans, which is now too late to go back and change. And the servers can only handle a limited number of wards which is why they can't just add new wards with demand, they have to take things like network stability into account. Sadly there is no easy fix to this.
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    Apartments/FC chambers are not adequate substitutes for housing at all, they are at best substitutes for each other. Housing has the advantages of Cross-Breeding for gardening in which several high end items (Jute, Thav. Onion, Blood Pepper, etc.) are gated behind it and the FC workshop for making airship parts/housing exteriors or aetherial wheels/stands and airship exploration ventures which also bring high end stuff gated behind housing. And yes I would go as far as to say that the VAST MAJORITY of players are locked out of content because SE has generated artificial scarcity by burying their heads in the sand and ignoring it. Most players have the gil to buy housing, but can't because it simply doesn't exist.

    I personally don't get why is it so hard to simply want more housing, it's not like we're asking for more failed content like Diadem 3.0 or content that SE didn't acknowledge in their 4.1 patch trailer like Eureka. I'm simply asking for more of what already exists.
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    I promise you this game does not have 10M+ active subscribers and that big number is deceptive as that number includes alts, gil sellers, bots and free trial accounts. Active subscriber base is closer to 800K which is the only number that matters since it counts people who pay for this game.
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    Housing is like in the real world, first come , first serve. SE has taken steps to help the problem. The real issue is that do to Gill Sellers they monopolize many wards. SE can't really do anything unless they have solid proof of violation. So for now call in days off, call in sick, use vacation time, camp areas out. That's how most of us got them anyways. That and default from Non FC leaders showing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I honestly think that they should move to instanced housing. Most Wards on my server are pretty dead, and while they're pretty, I would rather have the shift to instanced housing so that everyone can have a house. If FFXI can give every player instanced Moghouses, then why can't this game? Yeah, I'd miss decorating the yard but I don't really care too much about that if we could get nice instanced housing.
    You wouldn't have to give up the yard it just becomes part of the instance. In fact adding it to the instance would allow removal of the 20 item limit.
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