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    gbe931's Avatar
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    Can we as paying customers state the lack of Housing is simply unacceptable to SE?

    It has been over 3 years since SE introduced Housing in this game and for that long of time they have not addressed why it is too difficult to make more? There should be no reason why after 2 Expansions and millions of dollars garnered from the Cash Shop and Subs there simply isn't more housing. Clearly SE have no issue with cut/paste when it comes to recycling events (see Yokai Watch) or even assets like dungeon gear or enemies but are so adverse to doing so for Housing (the one thing ppl would not mind a cut/paste on). Housing is content that the VAST MAJORITY of the player base wants but SE would rather waste dev time/money on failed content like LoV or the twice failed Diadem. Heck they went out of their way to make (Ultimate) content for the sub 1% and making stupid "Perform" emotes no one asked for but can't be bothered to make more wards for the VAST MAJORITY of the player base? Also why bother gating Gardening and FC workshop behind Housing that most people can't partake in?
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    Last edited by gbe931; 10-04-2017 at 04:13 AM.

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    Hyomin Park
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    This is about the umpteenth time this has been brought up. SE either doesn't care or they are stubbornly clinging to their idea of "active" housing wards.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    I'm 100% ok with the neighborhood feel of the Wards as is, I just want more of them. Preferably with enough supply to meet the demand. Its been over 3 years and two expansions later and their "answer" this time around is 720 total net-new plots (per server) for a 2Y+ expansion cycle. So every two years only those few people will have a remote chance of being able to buy a plot while the rest of the player base gets the shaft. Like what is the point of SE giving us Housing Items as event rewards when the VAST MAJORITY of the player base doesn't have housing to actually be able to use it? Housing serves also as an important gil sink and truth be told would be in their own interest to remove as much gil as possible from the economy, but by artificially limiting supply and by staying silent on addressing the housing issue they basically condone house/fc flipping for exorbitant prices.
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    I honestly think that they should move to instanced housing. Most Wards on my server are pretty dead, and while they're pretty, I would rather have the shift to instanced housing so that everyone can have a house. If FFXI can give every player instanced Moghouses, then why can't this game? Yeah, I'd miss decorating the yard but I don't really care too much about that if we could get nice instanced housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I honestly think that they should move to instanced housing. Most Wards on my server are pretty dead, and while they're pretty, I would rather have the shift to instanced housing so that everyone can have a house. If FFXI can give every player instanced Moghouses, then why can't this game? Yeah, I'd miss decorating the yard but I don't really care too much about that if we could get nice instanced housing.
    You wouldn't have to give up the yard it just becomes part of the instance. In fact adding it to the instance would allow removal of the 20 item limit.
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    Over all the only people complaining are those who don't have houses because the game feel unfair. SE created new servers when SB came out to help with the congestion. They gave incentives to people for moving and people in other servers complain that they lost their chances at housing because of that. Over all each server is different and consider the following:


    Bottom line Life isn't fair, gaming isn't fair to those who are at the bottom, yet there are players who manage to climb to the top even when the odds are against them. This coming update will be the same issue again no matter what server anyone is on and people will still complain it isn't fair. Those who want a house bad enough will get it and I'm pretty sure people will complain about DC's. / They had to work / They got screwed / or make some petty excuse. I respect everyone's perspective and if people really want to build a house or play house there go marry someone with a house. Ask the FC to give you those rights to store or use what ever perks it has. I mean I'm sure that is what most FC do right? Then again before I became a one man FC I kept getting screwed and as we or most of us know if your not part of the main Founding group you get screwed. Therefor I will wish you guys luck in this upcoming housing release. No hard feelings to anyone and just a friendly advice; we all have our perspectives and experiences and hope you guys started scouting the market by getting ready to go to the plots of people who are looking to relocate for a chance at older wards. hint hint.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 10-06-2017 at 10:20 PM. Reason: Chacaretr limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Over all the only people complaining are those who don't have houses because the game feel unfair.
    Nope your wrong I have FC house and personal and still think it's unfair on people who cant get a house. Also when there is people that own 16 houses per character then the system is broken.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Nope your wrong I have FC house and personal and still think it's unfair on people who cant get a house. Also when there is people that own 16 houses per character then the system is broken.
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    An those people took the time and took advantage of the situation most likely RTM traders which we all know ruin the game for everyone. That is human nature and SE only makes the product. If paying customers miss use it and affect other members, as long as they aren't violating the terms of use, per say, or SE can't prove it then it's fair game. In court evidence is all that matters so they have to protect themselves. If a person owns 16 houses it doesn't matter, if they followed the proper protocol. Can you find anything on the terms of use that contradicts those actions or gives the impression of a breech of agreement? Or anyone in here for that matter? If not then your complain is invalid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Over all the only people complaining are those who don't have houses because the game feel unfair.
    I have a house. speak for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I have a house. speak for yourself.
    Same here, got a house myself but still find the situation pretty ridiculous. Ideally having infinite wards with active community is the target but that won't happen ever, or at least in the near future. Granted instance housing might remove the "community" feeling some of you might be enjoying (if it isn't a ghost town on your server), but having instance housing will theoretically provide much more players with a chance to get their own personal house.

    I still think the current warding should be limited to FC house only (not gonna touch on one-man FC), then implement fully-instanced, upgradeable plots for personal housing. That would probably serve as a nice middle ground to keep the delicate balance between a lively community ward and enough dynamic resources for a good portion of players to obtain their personal house. Hopefully SE can consider this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    This games forums are always amazing how there is always someone that will argue tooth and nail against improving the game, QoL or otherwise. Meanwhile SE would rather scalp the game for more money than invest in fixing this mess.
    Ikr? :/
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