Regarding no DRK adjustments in 4.1

[PhamNuwen]

Really sticks in my craw after reading:

"Shake it Off – When compared to other tank jobs, warriors were lacking in party defensive skills"

DRK also has zero party defensive skills, and even less overall party utility than WAR does. WAR at least has the slashing debuff.

I'd like to know what drugs their class balancers are on. I want some.

[Tegernako]

Really sticks in my craw after reading:

Maybe you should actually learn to read then. Where did they say DRK would receive absolutely no changes?

"Shake it Off – When compared to other tank jobs, warriors were lacking in party defensive skills"

WAR had zero defensive party utility. This is a fact. WAR had no skill that helped defend the party.

DRK also has zero party defensive skills, and even less overall party utility than WAR does. WAR at least has the slashing debuff.

TBN is a defensive party skill. And if DRK had less party utility then WAR, when why were first savage clears PLD/DRK? DRK had less damage and self defensive CD's, so if DRK really did have nothing to bring to the party, then why bring DRK instead of WAR? Hint, it's because TBN is a party utility.

I'd like to know what drugs their class balancers are on. I want some.

I'd like for you to learn to read and to actually know what you are talking about.

[KDSilver]

"DRK also has zero party defensive skills"

I wonder what The Blackest Night actually is then !
Maybe just some other useless dark flashy skill

[Tegernako]

"DRK also has zero party defensive skills"

I wonder what The Blackest Night actually is then !
Maybe just some other useless dark flashy skill

DRK has so many issues. I wish people would stop making stuff up and stick to the actual issues.

For instance how the entire job is based around TBN. That's an issue. Claiming that WAR getting a shield is a good thing but pretending your shield doesn't exist is not an issue. (that's actually hypocrisy)

Talking about DRK's lack of personal mitigation for damage, that's an issue. So many actual problems to talk about. Last thing we need is a salt thread where the OP can't even be bothered to properly read the liveletter.

[KDSilver]

Not saying drk has no problem.
But ignoring defensive utility he has...

[Crater]

A single-target Shield is not "party mitigation".

The general theme of the 4.1 balance changes is that SE doesn't know what it's doing and is buffing classes that are already overpowered while mostly ignoring the ones that are actually behind.

[KDSilver]

Party defensive skill doesn't involve to be able to put on everyone but "something you can do for your party".
And single target shield is one of those thing.

So this isn't the best we can find in the game, but drk still has something, and denying it is ridiculous.
If he said "we only have the blackest night but we need it for so many situations including our self mitigation", i would have said nothing.
But that's not what have been written.

[Crater]

Sorry, but that's incorrect. Shielding one person is exactly as effective as shielding zero people when the whole party will be taking damage.

There are uses for a single-target shield - it's not nothing - but "party mitigation" is not one of them.

[Aana]

Sorry, but that's incorrect. Shielding one person is exactly as effective as shielding zero people when the whole party will be taking damage.

Yeah, if only there were mechanics that didn't target the entire party or required single target attention...oh wait...

/facepalm.

We get it. Drks the at the bottom of 3 tanks (by the slimmest margin of any tank balance historically mind you). That doesn't mean EVERYTHING about drk is broken. Sheesh. Just because drk is in the weakest position doesn't mean you can ignore what drk actually does have. Every drk ability isn't bad or broken. Every adjustment to another job isn't an attack on drk.

[Gravton]

Sorry, but that's incorrect. Shielding one person is exactly as effective as shielding zero people when the whole party will be taking damage.
There are uses for a single-target shield - it's not nothing - but "party mitigation" is not one of them.

Your arguing semantics. Either way war didn't have a single target or party wide defensive buff.