Can we get children?

[LineageRazor]

Multiple reason why this will never happen:

1) Pedophillia from people (as much as we might not believe it's there, some people are screwed up mentally)
2) Child labor (by that I mean slaves)
3) Basically ingame pets you don't feed and neglect the whole time you're logged off

Why are we having this discussion instead of adding actual content to the game? Go play Sims if you're interested. Go play Skyrim and adopt kids. You can even set fire to them and they won't get mad!

For point number one: The idea that some individuals might whip up some demented RP is a pretty poor reason to disregard the possibility of adding a feature. This is the Internet. People will find a way to be awful, no matter what you do. There are plenty of child NPCs in the game already, and yet pedo RP isn't rampant around them.

Points two depends entirely on how these children are implemented in-game. If you're unable to make your child work, number two is obviously irrelevant. Though, to be fair, even if you ARE able to make your child work, in the quasi-medieval setting it would be perfectly normal for children to do chores of various kinds, so it's not some kind of heinous crime. This hardly makes it a "reason it will never happen". If anything, it makes it a feature.

Number three is a similar case. Your kid's not gonna starve or get lonely unless these are mechanics SE specifically adds to the game. Essentially, the world freezes for you when you log off. If Thordan's about to go primal and take over the world, he's not going to do it while you're logged off. Your kid's not gonna starve either.

As for why we're having this conversation, there's already a LOT in this game that many people would not consider to be "actual content". On the other hand, others DO consider it to be "actual content", because they enjoy it. The fact that the game caters to folks with all kinds of different ideas of what is fun is why the game is so robust and enjoyable. Basically, the very fact that we're having this conversation means that in-game kids ARE "actual content". All that remains is to decide whether this bit of actual content is worth implementing over some other bit of actual content.

[Elkanah]

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1) Have you MET Japanese culture? Are you NOT familiar with the incredible amount of Doujin and Hentai manga/art depicting sexual and lewd acts with children? Yoshi-P has literally advised and answered questions in some past live letters/interviews regarding adding kids for adventurers or warriors of light for the sake of being a child (in this case, as a playable race), would cause issues because of the demented and mentally screwed up people in the world who may RP and give FFXIV the bad rep because of it. Yoshi-P doesn't want that reputation. And I can understand and agree with that similar nature in mind. The NPC's are in this game, but have no real affiliation to you whatsoever other than "that one person who everyone knows, who helps people, and thus, you have a new job to help them!". That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The problem is, people are ASKING for children and again, comes back to reputation if the issue pops up with RPing and that happening. Sadly, as most other enjoyable things in life, we can't simply have "nice things" because there's people who WOULD ABSOLUTELY RUIN IT FOR OTHERS. Even outside of this information, the problem still remains that as children owning them, similar to pets and minions, there are people who would intend to ruin it for the sake of ruining it for all. Because people are logically incompetent and/or stupid, in the sense.

2) Zhloe and Khloe work well because they're just there for the crafters and a side story and/or for gatherers. Sad story nontheless, but still there as is. When you're not doing that, other adventurers are doing the work to help them out. You don't even have to think about it. It's one and done on that issue. There's no RPing with the npc who thinks of you as just another person, except better than most of the other NPC's in lore.

Maybe it is content people want. Maybe in some games like Skyrim and the Sims, it's more acceptable. Maybe in some other MMO's it would be okay. Final Fantasy is not one of those game titles. Period.

[Ssmiley_Bjakkzz]

1) Have you MET Japanese culture? .

well ppl are just ugly and painting the world with blood...:/

[Elkanah]

well ppl are just ugly and painting the world with blood...:/

Sadly, true. Even politics has changed drastically in the last several years.

[LineageRazor]

1) Have you MET Japanese culture? Are you NOT familiar with the incredible amount of Doujin and Hentai manga/art depicting sexual and lewd acts with children? Yoshi-P has literally advised and answered questions in some past live letters/interviews regarding adding kids for adventurers or warriors of light for the sake of being a child (in this case, as a playable race), would cause issues because of the demented and mentally screwed up people in the world who may RP and give FFXIV the bad rep because of it. Yoshi-P doesn't want that reputation. And I can understand and agree with that similar nature in mind. The NPC's are in this game, but have no real affiliation to you whatsoever other than "that one person who everyone knows, who helps people, and thus, you have a new job to help them!". That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The problem is, people are ASKING for children and again, comes back to reputation if the issue pops up with RPing and that happening. Sadly, as most other enjoyable things in life, we can't simply have "nice things" because there's people who WOULD ABSOLUTELY RUIN IT FOR OTHERS. Even outside of this information, the problem still remains that as children owning them, similar to pets and minions, there are people who would intend to ruin it for the sake of ruining it for all. Because people are logically incompetent and/or stupid, in the sense.

Oh, I am quite aware of the kinds of depravity you are talking about. I have to wonder, though, have YOU played THIS game? There are NUMEROUS child NPCs already in the game - and what a surprise, they DON'T have hordes of pervert players standing around them making with the ecchi. Even prime loli-bait NPCs like Khloe. I don't think even Balmung has much of this going on, and they are NOTORIOUS for that kind of thing.

But sure, let's pretend for a moment that there really is this vast collection of drooling maniacs waiting to unleash their perversions in full view of the poor, unsuspecting players and their virgin eyes. The answer is simple: keep the children indoors. Don't allow players to parade them around town; rather, require folks to have an apartment or house for their children, and only allow the child to exist within those confines. Perhaps you can send the child on errands or whatever - but no one outside of your house will ever see them. Whatever players choose to do with these children will have absolutely no impact on the population at large, unless the population at large decides to hang around inside those players' houses.

Even if they aren't so restricted, though your worries are nothing short of paranoia. Are there players who would get all sexytimes with their virtual kid? Probably. Will these people ruin the game for everyone else? To think so is ridiculous in the extreme. Players will blacklist and move on, just as they do with any other kind of vulgar RP they come across. If that kind of thing was enough to ruin the game, the game would have collapsed the moment they added Khloe to Idyllshire.