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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I said nothing of the sort. Let me rephrase then: Telling someone that their idea has no merit or value because you don't value the same thing is very self centered and obnoxious. You can say "I wouldn't use this" or "I don't support this idea" without putting DOWN the idea. Have your opinion, and let others have theirs.
    But that's how differing opinions work. Even if people were extremely polite about it, a differing opinion automatically devalues the other. Yes, some of the opinions here (my initial one included) show total indifference but no one here so far has made personal attacks to the op.

    You maybe a fan of over the top politeness and/or sugarcoated opinions but some of us actually don't mind nor care how an opinion is worded so long as it doesn't personally attack someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    But that's how differing opinions work. Even if people were extremely polite about it, a differing opinion automatically devalues the other. Yes, some of the opinions here (my initial one included) show total indifference but no one here so far has made personal attacks to the op.

    You maybe a fan of over the top politeness and/or sugarcoated opinions but some of us actually don't mind nor care how an opinion is worded so long as it doesn't personally attack someone.

    I'm not talking about "over the top" politeness, I'm suggesting civility. As in no sarcasm or flippant comments. But then there is an opinion on which is which, so you may not see it, but I do. Having a differing opinion does not devalue someone elses, it just states that you don't share that opinion. Devaluing someone else's opinion is the opposite of a discussion, telling them their ideas are worth less or not important because you don't hold the same opinion is .. well.. rude. I'm wasting far too much of the thread on this though, I'm not going to derail this with trying to 3rd party moderate.

    OP's idea has interesting implications and I'll +1 the sentiment. Dropping it there.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    Multiple reason why this will never happen:

    1) Pedophillia from people (as much as we might not believe it's there, some people are screwed up mentally)
    2) Child labor (by that I mean slaves)
    3) Basically ingame pets you don't feed and neglect the whole time you're logged off

    Why are we having this discussion instead of adding actual content to the game? Go play Sims if you're interested. Go play Skyrim and adopt kids. You can even set fire to them and they won't get mad!
    For point number one: The idea that some individuals might whip up some demented RP is a pretty poor reason to disregard the possibility of adding a feature. This is the Internet. People will find a way to be awful, no matter what you do. There are plenty of child NPCs in the game already, and yet pedo RP isn't rampant around them.

    Points two depends entirely on how these children are implemented in-game. If you're unable to make your child work, number two is obviously irrelevant. Though, to be fair, even if you ARE able to make your child work, in the quasi-medieval setting it would be perfectly normal for children to do chores of various kinds, so it's not some kind of heinous crime. This hardly makes it a "reason it will never happen". If anything, it makes it a feature.

    Number three is a similar case. Your kid's not gonna starve or get lonely unless these are mechanics SE specifically adds to the game. Essentially, the world freezes for you when you log off. If Thordan's about to go primal and take over the world, he's not going to do it while you're logged off. Your kid's not gonna starve either.

    As for why we're having this conversation, there's already a LOT in this game that many people would not consider to be "actual content". On the other hand, others DO consider it to be "actual content", because they enjoy it. The fact that the game caters to folks with all kinds of different ideas of what is fun is why the game is so robust and enjoyable. Basically, the very fact that we're having this conversation means that in-game kids ARE "actual content". All that remains is to decide whether this bit of actual content is worth implementing over some other bit of actual content.
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  4. #94
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    I recall fondly when WoW first added the orphan child event. You had a kid that followed you around sort of like a minion, that you took to different quest spots.... or everyone just dropped them in the lava near Molten Core for laughs. I could see them doing something like adding child minions for a holiday type event maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    But that's how differing opinions work. Even if people were extremely polite about it, a differing opinion automatically devalues the other. Yes, some of the opinions here (my initial one included) show total indifference but no one here so far has made personal attacks to the op.
    I haven't seen too many people being civil in this thread, and a lot of what they're saying does sound, to me at least, like "this idea is stupid and it was dumb to even suggest it." That's the main reason I haven't been replying to most peoples' comments. I'm really glad Krotoan spoke up because I wasn't about to do that since I thought someone like you would say no one's acting that way. I may be reading too much in to everyone's comments, or maybe you're reading too little in to them; either way, most of them I find to be rude and, as Krotoan said, self-centered, and I'd greatly appreciate it if people didn't act the way they are.
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    I would love this even if its a smallish mini-game thing, similar as squardron, retainer and even chocobo, think of fusing these mini games into one purpose for having a npc child doing all this together.
    Train, lvling, gathering, forming into your personal companion and gear up and all, even i would spend alots of gil on the market just to dress my child so badass!
    Even in incoming solo dungeon quest you could interact and join for quests and kill monsters.
    Damn this will make a living
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    Let's imagine for a second that this was implemented. A child is created. It levels up, gears up, learns stuff, etc. Okay now you and your significant other break up. What happens to the kid? How far would this child system go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas710 View Post
    Let's imagine for a second that this was implemented. A child is created. It levels up, gears up, learns stuff, etc. Okay now you and your significant other break up. What happens to the kid? How far would this child system go?
    It probably would be similar to the npcs you can put in your house in that they would stay in whoever owned the house, apartment or fc room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    (Because it's easier to programme an A.I script for gameplay that moves at the speed of glacier)

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    Don't know what you're saying but if it's the story NPCs being summonable, that's whatever. Now if it's the Fellow Adventurer, yeah, they perform much better than my brain dead bird and are much more lovable and were dressable. Don't make excuses for the Dev Team. :/
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    That's an interesting idea and very much the nature of marriage! Though, I am quite sure others have said it (this isn't the Sims or Skyrim, etc), it doesn't matter. The game is awesome with or without. There's already so much to do in the game and many dailies to be done. Not sure how this would play out if SE even decided to go with it. Cool idea though.
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