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    ScotchyScotch's Avatar
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    Scotch Tanglewood
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    Coeurl
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Better equivalency is Shelltron=IB=Blackest night. Short CD. 20ish% damage reduction for a very short period (1 hit, 5 sec, 6 sec) effective on all damage types. Usuable for virtually every tank buster in a fight and then some. Every tank has their 'always up' mini CD.
    And yet one tank has their mini CD locked behind tank stance and a guarantee of dps loss for using it.
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchyScotch View Post
    And yet one tank has their mini CD locked behind tank stance and a guarantee of dps loss for using it.
    Yeah but the same tank has the highest number of CDs on top of having the shortest recasts on both their biggest defensive cooldown and their invuln compared to the other two tanks.
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    Aana Azel
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchyScotch View Post
    And yet one tank has their mini CD locked behind tank stance and a guarantee of dps loss for using it.
    My response was in reply to making a poor comparison between dark mind and inner beast when drk has an closer functional equivalent to IB already. (Very short CD, similar mitigation value to IB/Shelltron, universal damage type, etc)

    If you want to compare abilities in a vacuum everything is jacked up. IB is a DPS loss vs being in deliverance FC, sure, but you aren't in deliverance if youre using IB anyway so its a dps gain. Also shelltron/Darkest are 1 offs for a single hit while IB both heals and is continuous mitigation for 6 sec and reduces CD on infuriate. Oh but drks can use it for half effect on party members! Well instead of shelltron pld can intervention for the same cost on other people and use a CD! Well Drks gives gauge which can be used to increase damage even more! Etc. Etc.

    Vacuum comparisons get real dumb real fast trying to rate X skill> Y skill. You have to compare the entire package of the class. They all have similar tools. Not the same tools. All have an immunity, but you can fight all day about which ones better because they are different. Same for their always up IB/DN/Shell.
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    Last edited by Aana; 09-27-2017 at 03:45 AM.

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    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Crusina Luachra
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchyScotch View Post
    And yet one tank has their mini CD locked behind tank stance and a guarantee of dps loss for using it.
    Something something near 100% uptime WAR perfect.
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    Halo kid